Democracy’s Fiery Ordeal: The War in Ukraine 🇺🇦

[Tiberius]

 

15 hours ago, Doc said:

 

You can blame Joke for not allowing a deal to be made last year.  Or being such a wuss that he allowed the invasion to happen in the first place.  Let someone else give them billions to be stolen by that corrupt Government.

No, you guys are to blame.

[Tommy Callahan]

For the slow folks. that red region in the map is the disputed region and what Russia annexed in 2014.  lines been the same since.

 

But the world has a few million less souls since.

 

but maybe, more weapons.  

[L Ron Burgundy]

1 hour ago, Tommy Callahan said:

For the slow folks. that red region in the map is the disputed region and what Russia annexed in 2014.  lines been the same since.

 

But the world has a few million less souls since.

 

but maybe, more weapons.  

Yeah because if we let Russia roll over Ukraine nobody will die.   You love to criticize but you're a bit short on viable solutions. 

[Tiberius]

And GOP is helping with those plans 

 

 

 

[ChiGoose]

6 hours ago, Tiberius said:

 

No, you guys are to blame.

Easy green energy solution:

 

Hook up Ronald Reagan’s grave to the power grid and his spinning over the current GOP’s complete capitulation to Moscow will power the entire country. 

[Irv]

Why doesn't Dopey Biden give money earmarked for Ukraine to the poor and people of color for reparations?  Also fund third term abortion clinics and green energy.  What a mess.  

[Tiberius]

Yes!!! 

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

12 hours ago, Tiberius said:

And GOP is helping with those plans 

 

 

 

The demand from many voices that the government of the most powerful nation on the planet needs to set its domestic and foreign spending and policy objectives primarily on the basis of whether or not those priorities "help" some foreign actor that poses absolutely no danger to our homeland is simply STUPID.  

[Tiberius]

47 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

The demand from many voices that the government of the most powerful nation on the planet needs to set its domestic and foreign spending and policy objectives primarily on the basis of whether or not those priorities "help" some foreign actor that poses absolutely no danger to our homeland is simply STUPID.  

This could of been said while Hitler was in Munich in 1938 winning a major victory without the firing of a single shot. Same thing 

[Tommy Callahan]

http://Estimates of Ukrainians killed in action (KIA) range from a low of just over 30,000 to a high of over 400,000.

 

400K souls and the mongers want more

 

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

This could of been said while Hitler was in Munich in 1938 winning a major victory without the firing of a single shot. Same thing 

This isn't 1938 and the circumstances are not even comparable.  Some nutjob could use the same sort of unsupported and irrational thinking to kill their neighbor's 14 year old son because they "see" similarities between him and Hitler as a youth and they want to make sure that he doesn't rise to power and destroy the world 30 years from today. 

[Tiberius]

3 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

This isn't 1938 and the circumstances are not even comparable.  Some nutjob could use the same sort of unsupported and irrational thinking to kill their neighbor's 14 year old son because they "see" similarities between him and Hitler as a youth and they want to make sure that he doesn't rise to power and destroy the world 30 years from today. 

No, it's exactly the same in the sense a bully is out to snuff out an entire people and we have the power to do something about it. Unfortunately that bully has friends here in our nation and are trying to make it easy for him. Bullies, dictators, general scum of that sort need to be opposed and that is our job. 

[Tommy Callahan]

2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

No, it's exactly the same in the sense a bully is out to snuff out an entire people and we have the power to do something about it. Unfortunately that bully has friends here in our nation and are trying to make it easy for him. Bullies, dictators, general scum of that sort need to be opposed and that is our job. 

Has Putin went past the disputed regions?  

 

400K people dead in a country that small is effing horrific. 10 times what we suffered in all of Vietnam.

 

but you dont care, your military stocks are doing great.  eh

 

 

[Tommy Callahan]

 

 

Insane video.  

[B-Man]

 

 

 

[Tiberius]

Look at the useful idiots of the terrorist Putin. Spit 

[All_Pro_Bills]

14 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:

Has Putin went past the disputed regions?  

 

400K people dead in a country that small is effing horrific. 10 times what we suffered in all of Vietnam.

 

but you dont care, your military stocks are doing great.  eh

 

 

This is a point many who claim to understand and hold "history" in high regard seem to overlook.  The population of those provinces are historically ethnic Russians.  Those provinces were not part of what is Ukraine prior to actions and proclamations of Soviet dictators, Lenin, Stalin, Khrushchev from the end of the revolution until 1954..  During WW2 the western part of what is now Ukraine collaborated with Germany while those in the east were subject to oppression and violence.  When the Russians mounted a counter-offensive the population of those provinces fought with the Russians and drove out the German forces and took retribution against Nazi collaborators in the west.  Many collaborators fled the country to places like Argentina after the war along with Germain officials and SS members. 

 

If you look at the historical voting patterns in Ukrainian national Presidential elections you'll find the big majority of those in the West support EU/West candidates and the big majority in the East support "pro Russian" candidates.  It makes our Red/Blue divide look insignificant.  The citizens in those provinces in the East prefer to be citizens of Russian in alignment with their ethnic background.  That's why the Russian offensive stopped there.  They're not going to attempt to occupy the entire country or move against former Soviet block countries.  That's a propaganda myth generated by parties interested in perpetual war and the profits they receive from a state of permanent violence. 

[Irv]

Again, Biden and his Squad buddies ***** up another thing.  What a mess.  

[L Ron Burgundy]

1 hour ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

Holy smokes this is nuts.