Democracy’s Fiery Ordeal: The War in Ukraine 🇺🇦

[Tommy Callahan]

 

[Tommy Callahan]

 

[B-Man]

 

Joe Biden Wants to Kill Ukraine Funding And Blame the GOP For It

ERICK-WOODS ERICKSON

 

FTA:

Now, I need to get to Ukraine funding, which is dead for now.

 

Several Republican Senators tell me they have become increasingly convinced over several months that Joe Biden wants to kill the funding. This explains his very slow roll to provide Ukraine the deliverables he previously promised them. Biden has repeatedly promised munitions and other supplies to Ukraine and then never actually sent them, or slow rolled it.

 

At this point, the Democrats could get the Ukraine funding they want, but they will have to compromise on border security, which they have no desire to do and which Joe Biden is not willing to do.

 

The thinking from these Senators is that Joe Biden is using President Zelensky as a prop against the GOP. Biden will blame the GOP for a lack of funding and use that lack of funding to both blame the GOP for a strategic failure in Ukraine and force Zelensky to compromise on land.

 

It’s already increasingly talked about in foreign policy circles that Zelensky is intransigent on the need to compromise while the Germans, French, British, and Americans are more willing to see Ukraine formally give up Crimea and other eastern territories

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Saying, “Sorry, Congress won’t budge so we can’t supply you weapons,” will force Zelensky to make decisions he has otherwise refused to make. Biden gets what he actually wants while also using the GOP as scapegoats.

 

https://ewerickson.substack.com/p/joe-biden-wants-to-kill-ukraine-funding?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=27843&post_id=139710203&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=9bg2k&utm_medium=email

[Tiberius]

6 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

Joe Biden Wants to Kill Ukraine Funding And Blame the GOP For It

ERICK-WOODS ERICKSON

 

FTA:

Now, I need to get to Ukraine funding, which is dead for now.

 

Several Republican Senators tell me they have become increasingly convinced over several months that Joe Biden wants to kill the funding. This explains his very slow roll to provide Ukraine the deliverables he previously promised them. Biden has repeatedly promised munitions and other supplies to Ukraine and then never actually sent them, or slow rolled it.

 

At this point, the Democrats could get the Ukraine funding they want, but they will have to compromise on border security, which they have no desire to do and which Joe Biden is not willing to do.

 

The thinking from these Senators is that Joe Biden is using President Zelensky as a prop against the GOP. Biden will blame the GOP for a lack of funding and use that lack of funding to both blame the GOP for a strategic failure in Ukraine and force Zelensky to compromise on land.

 

It’s already increasingly talked about in foreign policy circles that Zelensky is intransigent on the need to compromise while the Germans, French, British, and Americans are more willing to see Ukraine formally give up Crimea and other eastern territories

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Saying, “Sorry, Congress won’t budge so we can’t supply you weapons,” will force Zelensky to make decisions he has otherwise refused to make. Biden gets what he actually wants while also using the GOP as scapegoats.

 

https://ewerickson.substack.com/p/joe-biden-wants-to-kill-ukraine-funding?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=27843&post_id=139710203&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=9bg2k&utm_medium=email

That's stupid. You guys want to please Putin which is shameful and you are trying to cover your tracks of a monstrous foreign policy move to appease a dictator 

 

Shame on you people 

[Tommy Callahan]

7 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

That's stupid. You guys want to please Putin which is shameful and you are trying to cover your tracks of a monstrous foreign policy move to appease a dictator 

 

Shame on you people 

When he got rid of elections and started killing off the opposition. he became the dictator you are appeasing.

 

plus they got to get ready for the Venezuela BS over another energy source.

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

UH-huh.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Tiberius]

2 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

UH-huh.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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And thank God they are on our side. War ain't cheap. Best damn providers to a military in the world. Only fools or traitors would demonize them 

[B-Man]

 

[L Ron Burgundy]

2 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said:

When he got rid of elections and started killing off the opposition. he became the dictator you are appeasing.

 

plus they got to get ready for the Venezuela BS over another energy source.

 

 

If the opposition is compromised then he's right to do so.  People are, rightly so, keeping a close eye to make sure Zelensky doesn't go overboard and some are criticizing him now (Klitchko for example).  It took a long time for other Eastern European countries to clean house of Russian influence and they always had more influence in Ukraine.   

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

And thank God they are on our side. War ain't cheap. Best damn providers to a military in the world. Only fools or traitors would demonize them 

They are just twisting every single story they see into a negative against Ukraine. 

[All_Pro_Bills]

3 hours ago, Tiberius said:

That's stupid. You guys want to please Putin which is shameful and you are trying to cover your tracks of a monstrous foreign policy move to appease a dictator 

 

Shame on you people 

That's a legitimate hypothesis if the administration is looking for an off-ramp on the pledge of whatever it takes for as long as it takes.  This funding battle is an opportunity to do so and lay blame at the feet of others for defeat.  Otherwise, If aid to Ukraine is such a priority, then compromising on the issue of funding border security in exchange for that aid should be an acceptable concession.

[B-Man]

 

 

ANYONE SURPRISED ?

 

 

BREAKING: Biden Blinks on Border Standoff?

CBS NEWS 4:15 PM on December 12, 2023

 

The Biden administration on Tuesday indicated to congressional lawmakers that it would be willing to support a new border authority to expel migrants without asylum screenings, as well as a dramatic expansion of immigration detention and deportations, to convince Republicans to back aid to Ukraine, four people familiar with the matter told CBS News.

 

The White House informed Senate Democrats that it could back those sweeping and hardline immigration policy changes as part of the negotiations over President Biden’s emergency funding request, a roughly $100 billion package that includes military aid to Israel, Taiwan and Ukraine, as well as money to bolster border enforcement and hire additional immigration officials.

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-white-house-congress-border-security-detention-deportation/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=254669110

 

 

 

If true, this would be a massive win for Speaker Mike Johnson. Johnson had threatened to send the House home until after New Year if the border remained unaddressed, and it looks like that may have been enough for the White House to throw in the towel — that, and the fact that Democrats are also getting pretty unhappy about Biden’s border crisis. Stay tuned

 

 

 

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[Tiberius]

16 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

That's a legitimate hypothesis if the administration is looking for an off-ramp on the pledge of whatever it takes for as long as it takes.  This funding battle is an opportunity to do so and lay blame at the feet of others for defeat.  Otherwise, If aid to Ukraine is such a priority, then compromising on the issue of funding border security in exchange for that aid should be an acceptable concession.

This is assuming that the GOP. wants to compromise. I don't believe they do. They don't want a border bill. They just want to complain about it,

 

Why not pass Biden's border plan? The GOP is afraid to lose this issue. So this is a Red Herring and Ukraine is a victim of Trump's love of Putin 

14 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

ANYONE SURPRISED ?

 

 

BREAKING: Biden Blinks on Border Standoff?

CBS NEWS 4:15 PM on December 12, 2023

 

The Biden administration on Tuesday indicated to congressional lawmakers that it would be willing to support a new border authority to expel migrants without asylum screenings, as well as a dramatic expansion of immigration detention and deportations, to convince Republicans to back aid to Ukraine, four people familiar with the matter told CBS News.

 

The White House informed Senate Democrats that it could back those sweeping and hardline immigration policy changes as part of the negotiations over President Biden’s emergency funding request, a roughly $100 billion package that includes military aid to Israel, Taiwan and Ukraine, as well as money to bolster border enforcement and hire additional immigration officials.

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-white-house-congress-border-security-detention-deportation/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=254669110

 

 

 

If true, this would be a massive win for Speaker Mike Johnson. Johnson had threatened to send the House home until after New Year if the border remained unaddressed, and it looks like that may have been enough for the White House to throw in the towel — that, and the fact that Democrats are also getting pretty unhappy about Biden’s border crisis. Stay tuned

 

 

 

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Do it. I'd love this 

Calling their bluff 

[Tommy Callahan]

at the very least its a positive they are talking millions, vs billions like before.

 

Z needs to find an off ramp like the US is doing before his own people do it for him.

 

the DNC/Biden and its parrots love Ismail Haniyeh and parrot his talking points.

[Tiberius]

Just monstrous 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

Of Course.

 

 

[Tiberius]

Same about aid to Ukraine. What pathetic bunch of losers 

 

 

6 hours ago, B-Man said:

                                   

 

 

 

You want some Ukrainian blood with your fries buddy? You sick f uck 

[Doc]

1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

Same about aid to Ukraine. What pathetic bunch of losers 

 

 

[Tiberius]

3 minutes ago, Doc said:

Putin is so happy to have fools like you 

 

Congrats, you are on the side of a terrorist mass murderer 

 

Proud? Maybe more children will get blown up by Russian missiles tonight! You can be happy then 

[Tiberius]

 

 

 

 

[Doc]

2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Putin is so happy to have fools like you 

 

Congrats, you are on the side of a terrorist mass murderer 

 

Proud? Maybe more children will get blown up by Russian missiles tonight! You can be happy then 

 

You can blame Joke for not allowing a deal to be made last year.  Or being such a wuss that he allowed the invasion to happen in the first place.  Let someone else give them billions to be stolen by that corrupt Government.