Democracy’s Fiery Ordeal: The War in Ukraine 🇺🇦

[Tommy Callahan]

 

[Doc]

1 hour ago, Tommy Callahan said:

 

If true, that's pathetic.

[Tiberius]

Don't forget the hostage being held by Iran's other partner. Maybe Trump can talk to his buddy Putin to get this guy free 

 

https://apnews.com/article/russia-american-journalist-gershkovich-708c4115e819c41fd0f285f743f6b11d

 

MOSCOW (AP) — A court in Moscow on Tuesday extended the detention of Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gershkovich, arrested on espionage charges, until Jan. 30, Russian news agencies reported.

The hearing took place behind closed doors because authorities say details of the criminal case against the American journalist are classified.

Gershkovich, 32, was detained in March while on a reporting trip to the Russian city of Yekaterinburg, about 2,000 kilometers (1,200 miles) east of Moscow. Russia’s Federal Security Service alleged that the reporter, “acting on the instructions of the American side, collected information constituting a state secret about the activities of one of the enterprises of the Russian military-industrial complex.”

[Tommy Callahan]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

Don't forget the hostage being held by Iran's other partner. Maybe Trump can talk to his buddy Putin to get this guy free 

 

https://apnews.com/article/russia-american-journalist-gershkovich-708c4115e819c41fd0f285f743f6b11d

 

MOSCOW (AP) — A court in Moscow on Tuesday extended the detention of Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gershkovich, arrested on espionage charges, until Jan. 30, Russian news agencies reported.

The hearing took place behind closed doors because authorities say details of the criminal case against the American journalist are classified.

Gershkovich, 32, was detained in March while on a reporting trip to the Russian city of Yekaterinburg, about 2,000 kilometers (1,200 miles) east of Moscow. Russia’s Federal Security Service alleged that the reporter, “acting on the instructions of the American side, collected information constituting a state secret about the activities of one of the enterprises of the Russian military-industrial complex.”

They already got the arms dealer for the basketball player.

 

Biden don't care about that reporter/spy or the other guy in the Russian prison for pot.

 

 

[L Ron Burgundy]

Another Russian general has met the sausage god.

 

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/11/28/2208440/-More-Russian-stuff-blowing-up-Russian-major-general-reported-killed-by-mine

 

 

[Tiberius]

20 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said:

They already got the arms dealer for the basketball player.

 

Biden don't care about that reporter/spy or the other guy in the Russian prison for pot.

 

 

Spy? Spreading Putin's lies? You people...👎

[Tommy Callahan]

lol, Daily Kos

 

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If your going to talk propaganda

 

 

[L Ron Burgundy]

2 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said:

lol, Daily Kos

 

Daily Kos (/koʊz/ KOHZ) is a group blog and internet forum focused on the U.S. Democratic Party and progressive[1] liberal American politics.[2][3] The site publishes blog posts,[4] polls,[5] election and campaign fundraising data

 

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If your going to talk propaganda

 

 

Says the guy that posts Pizzagate Poso when he says something you like.  Facts are facts.  There is a ton happening that isn't being reported by standard media, a lot within Russia. 

[Tommy Callahan]

2 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

Says the guy that posts Pizzagate Poso when he says something you like.  Facts are facts.  There is a ton happening that isn't being reported by standard media, a lot within Russia. 

ad hominem cause nothing in that site is fact.  

 

 

[The Frankish Reich]

3 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Spy? Spreading Putin's lies? You people...👎

Right. Thanks for slandering Evan Gershkovich.

Maybe Kim Dotcom has weighed (haha) in on that one too.

[L Ron Burgundy]

14 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:

ad hominem cause nothing in that site is fact.  

 

 

Yawn.  You post insanity from insane sources when it suits but call out a source for being left leaning.   Laughable.   

 

 

[Tommy Callahan]

3 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

Yawn.  You post insanity from insane sources when it suits but call out a source for being left leaning.   Laughable.   

 

 

yes, your attempted insults and strawmen are laughable.

 

the fact is that site referenced, is not even close to news and is just propaganda.

 

But it supports what you wanna hear, so hold it tight and fight anyone who calls it out.

 

 

 

 

[L Ron Burgundy]

2 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said:

yes, your attempted insults and strawmen are laughable.

 

the fact is that site referenced, is not even close to news and is just propaganda.

 

But it supports what you wanna hear, so hold it tight and fight anyone who calls it out.

 

 

 

 

What insult?  You cite one of the worst propagandists on the internet.  Not an insult, a fact.  Proven by his disproven insane conspiracies, not that you care of course.  I mean you can forgive a journalist making a mistake, you really shouldnt forgive insanity.

 

That site is garbage.  But they still reported a fact- which is now being reported by many other outlets.  Mainstream news is behind on almost all aspects of this war.  Russian citizens are becoming the best sources for news.  Sifting through what's real or not is a challenge.

 

Did you know that there have been many acts of terrorism/sabotage within Russia?  Very few have received media coverage.  There are videos to back them up if you look hard enough.

 

 

 

 

[Tommy Callahan]

2 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

What insult?  You cite one of the worst propagandists on the internet.  Not an insult, a fact.  Proven by his disproven insane conspiracies, not that you care of course.  I mean you can forgive a journalist making a mistake, you really shouldnt forgive insanity.

 

That site is garbage.  But they still reported a fact- which is now being reported by many other outlets.  Mainstream news is behind on almost all aspects of this war.  Russian citizens are becoming the best sources for news.  Sifting through what's real or not is a challenge.

 

Did you know that there have been many acts of terrorism/sabotage within Russia?  Very few have received media coverage.  There are videos to back them up if you look hard enough.

 

 

 

 

Do you realize how many times that site was wrong.  From the constant reports on the surges progress to the ghost of kiev.  

 

It's war propaganda from a shady site with almost no controls 

 

And yes.  Our media doesn't highlight the Ukraine work in Russia that much.  

 

But will report on the Russian response. 

 

 

[L Ron Burgundy]

17 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:

Do you realize how many times that site was wrong.  From the constant reports on the surges progress to the ghost of kiev.  

 

It's war propaganda from a shady site with almost no controls 

 

And yes.  Our media doesn't highlight the Ukraine work in Russia that much.  

 

But will report on the Russian response. 

 

 

I dont give 2 shites about the site, are you not comprehending?  They are correct here, that's all that matters.  Plenty other sources picked this up today.

 

And again, your hypocrisy astounds.  The Pizzagate guy is good enough for you lol.  

[Tommy Callahan]

22 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

I dont give 2 shites about the site, are you not comprehending?  They are correct here, that's all that matters.  Plenty other sources picked this up today.

 

And again, your hypocrisy astounds.  The Pizzagate guy is good enough for you lol.  

Even a broken clock is correct twice a day. 

 

Seems it's still being determined if he was in a vehicle, walking or was killed by his own men.  

 

 

[Tiberius]

Reduce legal immigration? That's really stupid. But that's MAGA 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/11/29/trump-ukraine-senate-republicans-border/

 

Sen. Thom Tillis wants you to know that he’s very “reasonable.” That’s the word the North Carolina Republican used with reporters this week while describing immigration reforms that the GOP is demanding from Senate Democrats in exchange for supporting the billions in Ukraine aid that President Biden wants.

But the demands from Tillis and his fellow Republican leading the talks, Sen. James Lankford of Oklahoma, are not reasonable at all — they’re following Donald Trump’s playbook. Under the guise of seeking more “border security,” they’re insisting on provisions that would reduce legal immigration in numerous ways that could even undermine the goal of securing the border.

According to Democratic sources familiar with the negotiations, Republican demands began to shift soon after the New York Times reported that in a second Trump term, he would launch mass removals of millions of undocumented immigrants, gut asylum seeking almost entirely, and dramatically expand migrant detention in “giant camps.”

As one Senate Democratic source told me, Republicans started acting as though Trump and his immigration policy adviser Stephen Miller were “looking over their shoulders.”

 

Biden has asked Congress to provide tens of billions of dollars in aid to Ukraine and Israel and an additional $14 billion to buttress the southern border with new law enforcement agents, expanded detention and other increased security measures. But Republicans won’t agree to that latter request — or the Ukraine aid — without substantial changes to immigration policy as well.

[Tommy Callahan]

According to Democratic sources familiar with the negotiations, Republican demands began to shift soon after the New York Times reported that in a second Trump term, he would launch mass removals of millions of undocumented immigrants, gut asylum seeking almost entirely, and dramatically expand migrant detention in “giant camps.”

As one Senate Democratic source told me, Republicans started acting as though Trump and his immigration policy adviser Stephen Miller were “looking over their shoulders.”

 

Biden has asked Congress to provide tens of billions of dollars in aid to Ukraine and Israel and an additional $14 billion to buttress the southern border with new law enforcement agents, expanded detention and other increased security measures. But Republicans won’t agree to that latter request — or the Ukraine aid — without substantial changes to immigration policy as well.

 

So, what are these changes the GOP is looking for?  article kind of lacks details or a source.

 

Biden has asked Congress to provide tens of billions of dollars in aid to Ukraine and Israel and an additional $14 billion to buttress the southern border with new law enforcement agents, expanded detention and other increased security measures.

 

 

Seems hypocritical to request more for Ukraine's border, than ours.

 

just saying

 

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

Gee, fell to page three.

 

Where is the love for Ukraine gone ?

 

 

 

[Tiberius]

58 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Gee, fell to page three.

 

Where is the love for Ukraine gone ?

 

 

 

I guess Trump has given his marching orders to the House GOP to stop funding the war against his buddy Putin