Democracy’s Fiery Ordeal: The War in Ukraine 🇺🇦

[Tommy Callahan]

2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

It's almost as if a war is going on...

ITs like usual that the reporting on Ukraine is mostly propaganda.

 

surprised to see the NYT do actual journalism again.

23 hours ago, B-Man said:

While this change did result in producing incremental gains, the cost was exorbitant. On Aug. 29, the BBC reported that new leaked reports suggested Ukrainian battle deaths exploded since the offensive started. Whereas Ukraine was reported to have lost 17,500 troops in the first year of the war, it is presently assessed to have lost a breathtakingly high 50,000 additional deaths, for a total of 70,000 dead and 120,000 wounded.

you support this tibs?  

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

Yup, money laundering

Today, the Clinton Global Initiative announced their very own program to rebuild Ukraine. The US is sending the World Bank $25 billion. Then, the World Bank is sending money to the Clintons. And then the Clintons are sending it to Ukraine.

 

Joe Biden also just appointed a Democrat mega-donor to be the Ukraine reconstruction czar. Her qualifications? She's a billionaire heiress who bankrolled Obama's election.

 

But don't you dare ask where our $100 billion of aid went, because the Ukrainian army's American trans "disinformation" czar says asking questions is treasonous.

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

SATIRE ??

 

 

[Tommy Callahan]

5 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:

I found Billfuc.k

 

In Ukraine. 

 

Ashton-Cirillo is now taking to social media threatening to hunt down and kill those who criticize the country’s government:

 

"Next week, the teeth of the Russian devils will gnash even harder, and their rabid mouths will foam in uncontrollable frenzy as the world will see a favorite Kremlin propagandist pay for their crimes. This puppet of Putin is only the first. Russia's war criminal propagandists will all be hunted down and justice will be served."

Why are we giving these psychos our money?

 

 

Damn.  She just got fired.  Bet we do pay for her salary and then some.

 

Update(1336ET): The controversial American transgender spokesperson for Ukraine's Territorial Defense Forces Sarah Ashton-Cirillo (born Michael Cirillo) has been suspended indefinitely by the Ukrainian military, also pending an investigation. According to an official Ukrainian military statement, Ashton-Cirillo's recent statements regarding "hunting down" dissidents and "propagandists" were not approved...

 

 

[Tiberius]

4 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Yup, money laundering

Today, the Clinton Global Initiative announced their very own program to rebuild Ukraine. The US is sending the World Bank $25 billion. Then, the World Bank is sending money to the Clintons. And then the Clintons are sending it to Ukraine.

 

Joe Biden also just appointed a Democrat mega-donor to be the Ukraine reconstruction czar. Her qualifications? She's a billionaire heiress who bankrolled Obama's election.

 

But don't you dare ask where our $100 billion of aid went, because the Ukrainian army's American trans "disinformation" czar says asking questions is treasonous.

 

 

Liar gonna lie. 

 

Anything to help Putin 

[Tommy Callahan]

25 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Liar gonna lie.

welp, that is your shtick.

 

 

[Orlando Buffalo]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

Liar gonna lie. 

 

Anything to help Putin 

You think the Clinton Global Initiative is not a money laundering organization? Bet you feel BLM has financially benefitted black people in cities also 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[B-Man]

 

FTA:

 

Which brings us to the bigger picture:

 

Ukrainian President VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY heads to Washington later this week in a last-ditch effort to shore up American support for his war-torn nation.

 

But while there’s a broad bipartisan coalition keen on continuing aid to Kyiv, it increasingly looks like that assistance could become the latest casualty of the battle inside the GOP.

 

To recap: The White House and Ukraine’s bipartisan allies in the Senate have plotted for weeks to advance $24 billion in supplemental Ukraine aid alongside whatever temporary funding patch moves around the Oct. 1 shutdown deadline.

 

House conservatives have erupted at the notion of attaching Ukraine aid to a CR, and even McCarthy’s gambit of moving it separately with border security legislation has gotten a chilly reception.

 

https://hotair.com/tree-hugging-sister/2023/09/20/ukrainian-spokes-trans-suspended-ukraine-funding-may-blow-up-talks-n579362
 

 

VOTE SEPARATELY for funding 

 

If it’s that important, get it on the record,

don’t add 24 BILLION to a government budget continuance !!!

 

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

 

What I haven't seen anywhere in the MSM yet are references to this statement by the Polish PM communicating a surprising about-face by one of the most ardent supporters of Ukraine.   With an election coming and popularity for war support falling compounded by Ukrainian grain flooding the Polish market the politics have changed dramatically. 

 

 

 

 

[Tommy Callahan]

8 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

 

What I haven't seen anywhere in the MSM yet are references to this statement by the Polish PM communicating a surprising about-face by one of the most ardent supporters of Ukraine.   With an election coming and popularity for war support falling compounded by Ukrainian grain flooding the Polish market the politics have changed dramatically. 

 

 

 

 

Its like words and actions have consequences.

 

Poland summons Ukrainian ambassador over Zelenskiy remarks, Kyiv calls for calm | Reuters

 

Then hours later.

 

Poland no longer arming Ukraine, says PM (msn.com)

 

 

Interesting how they reference Ukraine as a drowning person that is holding its rescuers under water, to save itself.

 

On a side note. Poland has some of the most interesting history stories going. from mermaids to ancient warrior armies.

 

 

 

 

[Tiberius]

10 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

FTA:

 

Which brings us to the bigger picture:

 

Ukrainian President VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY heads to Washington later this week in a last-ditch effort to shore up American support for his war-torn nation.

 

But while there’s a broad bipartisan coalition keen on continuing aid to Kyiv, it increasingly looks like that assistance could become the latest casualty of the battle inside the GOP.

 

To recap: The White House and Ukraine’s bipartisan allies in the Senate have plotted for weeks to advance $24 billion in supplemental Ukraine aid alongside whatever temporary funding patch moves around the Oct. 1 shutdown deadline.

 

House conservatives have erupted at the notion of attaching Ukraine aid to a CR, and even McCarthy’s gambit of moving it separately with border security legislation has gotten a chilly reception.

 

https://hotair.com/tree-hugging-sister/2023/09/20/ukrainian-spokes-trans-suspended-ukraine-funding-may-blow-up-talks-n579362
 

 

VOTE SEPARATELY for funding 

 

If it’s that important, get it on the record,

don’t add 24 BILLION to a government budget continuance !!!

 

 

Support for Putin and his war is strong in the anti-democracy caucus of the GOP 

[Tommy Callahan]

Just now, Tiberius said:

Support for Putin and his war is strong in the anti-democracy caucus of the GOP

Such a silly and false dichotomy.

 

or really simple war mongering propaganda.

 

How are your military stocks doing?  

[Tiberius]

16 min ago

Ukraine claims strike against military target in Russian-occupied Crimea

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By Annabelle Timsit

Ukraine’s Armed Forces said they successfully targeted a Russian air base in Crimea overnight, the latest in a series of similar claims publicly acknowledging that the peninsula — which was illegally annexed by Russia in 2014 — is directly in Kyiv’s crosshairs.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/09/21/russia-ukraine-war-live-updates-zelensky-biden-poland/

[Tommy Callahan]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

16 min ago

Ukraine claims strike against military target in Russian-occupied Crimea

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By Annabelle Timsit

Ukraine’s Armed Forces said they successfully targeted a Russian air base in Crimea overnight, the latest in a series of similar claims publicly acknowledging that the peninsula — which was illegally annexed by Russia in 2014 — is directly in Kyiv’s crosshairs.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/09/21/russia-ukraine-war-live-updates-zelensky-biden-poland/

“On the night of the 21st of September the Defense Forces of Ukraine carried out a combined attack on the military airfield of the occupiers near the city of Saka in the temporarily occupied Crimea,” the armed forces said in a Telegram post around midday.

Russia’s Defense Ministry said it foiled an attempted attack against Russian territory overnight, claiming to have destroyed 19 Ukrainian drones over the Black Sea and Crimea. Oleg Kryuchkov, an adviser to the Russian-installed head of Crimea, denied reports that the air base was destroyed. “Our air defense shot down everything,” he said.

Unnamed sources in the Ukrainian Security Services told CNN that at least 12 Su-24 and Su-30 combat aircraft, as well as Pantsir missile systems, were being held at Saki air base on Crimea’s western coast when it was targeted by a “massive fire strike.” The unnamed sources told CNN that the base was also used to train operators of Iranian-made drones and said the attack “caused serious damage to the occupiers’ equipment.” The Washington Post could not independently verify the reports, and it was not immediately clear if any Russian military assets were damaged.

Saki air base was attacked last year, and a Ukrainian government official told The Post at the time that Ukrainian special forces were responsible.

 

So a very expensive attack on a field.  

 

Unsourced

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

As I type this, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is on Capitol Hill again, this time to try to secure another $23 billion. That would be on top of the already

$113 billion that has been appropriated over the last year and a half. 

 

 

Ukraine's war of self-defense against Russia has largely turned into a stalemate. The spring counter-offensive that Zelensky was hoping would turn the tide hasn't produced the desired results, and while Vladimir Putin is certainly not "winning" the war, he's been able to garner a position where he could conceivably drag it out for many more years. 

 

That has some Republicans saying enough is enough. Rand Paul is one of them, and he pulled no punches when asked about the situation

 

 

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2023/09/21/watch-rand-paul-pulls-no-punches-on-ukraine-n2164101

 

Edited September 21, 2023 by B-Man

[Tiberius]

25 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

As I type this, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is on Capitol Hill again, this time to try to secure another $23 billion. That would be on top of the already

$113 billion that has been appropriated over the last year and a half. 

 

 

Ukraine's war of self-defense against Russia has largely turned into a stalemate. The spring counter-offensive that Zelensky was hoping would turn the tide hasn't produced the desired results, and while Vladimir Putin is certainly not "winning" the war, he's been able to garner a position where he could conceivably drag it out for many more years. 

 

That has some Republicans saying enough is enough. Rand Paul is one of them, and he pulled no punches when asked about the situation

 

 

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2023/09/21/watch-rand-paul-pulls-no-punches-on-ukraine-n2164101

 

Talk about a POS. Putin's mouthpiece 

 

Not a word on children stolen to Russia> A country invaded? Nope, not POS Rand Paul, a complete D-Bag if there ever was one 

[Tommy Callahan]

29 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

As I type this, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is on Capitol Hill again, this time to try to secure another $23 billion. That would be on top of the already

$113 billion that has been appropriated over the last year and a half. 

 

 

Ukraine's war of self-defense against Russia has largely turned into a stalemate. The spring counter-offensive that Zelensky was hoping would turn the tide hasn't produced the desired results, and while Vladimir Putin is certainly not "winning" the war, he's been able to garner a position where he could conceivably drag it out for many more years. 

 

That has some Republicans saying enough is enough. Rand Paul is one of them, and he pulled no punches when asked about the situation

 

 

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2023/09/21/watch-rand-paul-pulls-no-punches-on-ukraine-n2164101

 

ITs just funny how they automatically respond with "Putins puppet" to anything less than blind support.

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Doc]

3 hours ago, Chris farley said:

ITs just funny how they automatically respond with "Putins puppet" to anything less than blind support.

 

The programming is hard to overcome.