Joe Ferguson forever Posted June 20, 2023 Posted June 20, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, B-Man said: No wonder they don't want a debate. and you take Putin at his word...hy would he keep this secret for so long. If true (which it isn't) why not use it as the political weapon it would be? Need to work on your evil genius thinking. you're not where you wanna be. Edited June 20, 2023 by redtail hawk
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 20, 2023 Posted June 20, 2023 🤦♂️ Pentagon accounting error provides extra $6.2 billion for Ukraine military aid https://apnews.com/article/72eeb6119439146f1939d5b1973a44ef 1
John from Riverside Posted June 20, 2023 Posted June 20, 2023 8 hours ago, Chris farley said: That article no. And nothing to say the western trainers were American. They are amazing. But have shown flaws with hypersonic or small drone attacks. But warfare always adapts They were the same whenever they were taking down scuds 7 hours ago, redtail hawk said: and you take Putin at his word...hy would he keep this secret for so long. If true (which it isn't) why not use it as the political weapon it would be? Need to work on your evil genius thinking. you're not where you wanna be. The one thing that nobody should be doing is taking Putin at his word The guy is XKGB 1 1
All_Pro_Bills Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 18 hours ago, redtail hawk said: and you take Putin at his word...hy would he keep this secret for so long. If true (which it isn't) why not use it as the political weapon it would be? Need to work on your evil genius thinking. you're not where you wanna be. It's not his word. It's a signed draft of a peace treaty. Is the draft a forgery? We don't know but I don't hear anyone that was involved on either side of the negotiations at the time protesting or making those accusations. That might be coming but it hasn't yet. I'm sure the CIA and the IC will chime in at some point right on queue and declare the document a forgery. Should we expect anything less? This story about Johnson playing messenger boy was going around last April. It was brought up here and roundly dismissed by those typically faithful to the official story. At the time Ukraine was fairing well in the war but it seems less so right now. Maybe they should have ignored the allies demand to continue fighting? 1
B-Man Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 TRANSLATION: Send more money ! Ukraine Offensive 'Slower Than Desired', Zelenskiy Says; Putin Sees 'Lull' U. S. News ^ | June 21, 2023 President Volodymyr Zelenskiy was quoted on Wednesday as saying progress in Ukraine's counteroffensive against Russian forces was "slower than desired", but that Kyiv would not be pressured into speeding it up. "Some people believe this is a Hollywood movie and expect results now. It's not," Britain's BBC quoted him as saying in an interview to be broadcast later in the day. "What's at stake is people's lives." His adversary, Russian President Vladimir Putin, said Moscow had observed a "lull" in Ukraine's counteroffensive, which began early this month. Although Ukraine still had some offensive potential, Kyiv understood it had "no chance", Putin said in televised remarks. (Excerpt) Read more at usnews.com ...https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2023-06-21/ukraine-offensive-slower-than-desired-zelenskiy-says
Coffeesforclosers Posted June 23, 2023 Posted June 23, 2023 So yeah. Is anybody keeping tabs on Russia? Supposedly Wagner PMC is launching a rebellion right now. 1 1
Coffeesforclosers Posted June 23, 2023 Posted June 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Things are getting WEIRD, lads I found Prigozhin's video manifesto. Basically the high points are: 1. NATO and Ukraine were never planning to attack. 2. Demilitarization and Denazification were propaganda to spoon feed to the Russian public. 3. The war was started because Putin and his cronies wanted land and cash, and the army wanted a short, victorious war. 1 1
L Ron Burgundy Posted June 23, 2023 Posted June 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Things are getting WEIRD, lads Good. Hopefully someone's making a big move. I'm hoping it's not the knuckleheads who pretended to invade.
Roundybout Posted June 23, 2023 Posted June 23, 2023 Time for Russian Civil War 2 I guess, hopefully without the communism
L Ron Burgundy Posted June 23, 2023 Posted June 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: Time for Russian Civil War 2 I guess, hopefully without the communism Yup was thinking it was misinformation at first now seeing a lot of detail. Thanks for posting the Prigozhin manifesto. 1
Tiberius Posted June 23, 2023 Author Posted June 23, 2023 Oh wow, if this is true, could be a big deal at the front
L Ron Burgundy Posted June 23, 2023 Posted June 23, 2023 From what I gather, and this could be wrong there's a lot of conflicting info, it looks like maybe Russian ministry of def attacked Wagner. Now Wagners going nuts and going after Moscow. Hard to believe. Not sure what's true. https://twitter.com/FordJohnathan5/status/1672344871112253440?t=5op1m-d80Zhsv1kalxMX2A&s=19
Tiberius Posted June 23, 2023 Author Posted June 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said: From what I gather, and this could be wrong there's a lot of conflicting info, it looks like maybe Russian ministry of def attacked Wagner. Now Wagners going nuts and going after Moscow. Hard to believe. Not sure what's true. https://twitter.com/FordJohnathan5/status/1672344871112253440?t=5op1m-d80Zhsv1kalxMX2A&s=19 Putin losing control of his war lords
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