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  On 5/18/2023 at 5:06 PM, sherpa said:

 

So Raytheon isn't a "stock of freedom?'

 

As a guy who used to teach Sidewinder, and surface to air systems that Patriot was based on, I had very frequent dealings with that company as they used to produce the graphics used in my lecture.

 

They build Patriot, Sidewinder and Amraam.

 

Hard to find a company that US air assets would consider more a contributor to our defense and "freedom."

 

 

 

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Sorry, I just didn't invest in that company, so what? 

 

Trying to kick up some dirt where's no dirt 

  On 5/18/2023 at 5:04 PM, SoCal Deek said:

Lots of expletives on here today . You okay? 

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LOL 

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  On 5/18/2023 at 5:14 PM, Tiberius said:

Sorry, I just didn't invest in that company, so what? 

 

Trying to kick up some dirt where's no dirt 

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Nope. Couldn't care less.

A comment that suggests that Raytheon is not a "stock of freedom," your words, is bizarre, and a view absolutely not shared by anybody in a US tacair cockpit or on the ground position defended by Patriot.

 

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  On 5/18/2023 at 5:18 PM, sherpa said:

 

Nope. Couldn't care less.

A comment that suggests that Raytheon is not a "stock of freedom," your words, is bizarre, and a view absolutely not shared by anybody in a US tacair cockpit or on the ground position defended by Patriot.

 

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I believe its a stock of freedom 

Off hand remark

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Posted
  On 5/18/2023 at 6:00 PM, Tiberius said:

Chill out 

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I’m fine thanks, but I’m not the one on here calling other people POS and giving still others the finger. But maybe you have a different interpretation of ‘chill out’. I know language is fluid these days. 😉

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“Any person capable of angering you becomes your master;
he can anger you only when you permit yourself to be disturbed by him.”


― Epictetus

 

If its me your upset at, I was just busting chops.  

 

 

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All I did was ask if you owned Raytheon stock. All you had to do was say no. End of story.

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Posted (edited)
  On 5/18/2023 at 4:14 PM, SoCal Deek said:

Relax Tibs

He simply has a different opinion about how we choose to defend freedom. That’s all.

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No he’s got a different opinion on which Americans freedom is a priority…we think all freedoms that don’t encroach on others are equal 

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  On 5/19/2023 at 10:51 AM, ALF said:

The Biden administration has signaled to European allies that the US would allow them to export F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine, sources familiar with the discussions told CNN. Retired US Air Force Colonel Cedric Leighton explains the significance of the jets.

 

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/05/19/f-16-explainer-colonel-cederic-leighton-ukraine-sot-ovn-intl-hnk-vpx.cnn

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Leaked USAF Documents state that Ukrainian Pilots could trained on the F-16 in as little as 4 months

 

Ukraine sent over two pilots, one qualified on the MiG-29, the other on the SU-27. The timeline comes from evaluations of their performance in simulators.

 

Theses guys were already qualified pilots with a lot of flight time. Not green as grass replacement pilots starting from scratch. It's important to keep that in mind.

 

But it also means that if Ukraine can keep its pilots alive, it's got an idea of how long it takes to transition them over to Western fighters. 

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  On 5/19/2023 at 7:18 AM, redtail hawk said:

No he’s got a different opinion on which Americans freedom is a priority…we think all freedoms that don’t encroach on others are equal 

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No idea what any of that means Hawk, but it’s still no excuse for the expletive laced responses. If people can’t stay somewhere in the neighborhood of civility then I’m not sure anyone ever gets their point across or moves the discussion along. 

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Posted
  On 5/19/2023 at 2:50 PM, Tiberius said:

Get 'er done! 

 

 

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Are you Ukrainian?

 

Honest question, because I don’t know…

 

I fail to understand how anyone without heritage ties could be this excitable about furthering a proxy war with a nuclear power.

 

Maybe you just really like war and/or really hate territorial expansion, however I’ve really never seen any self reflection or anger towards the US and our constant aggression in the Middle East and/or territorial land disputes happening African nations like Yemen, with American bombs being dropped on civilians by the Saudis. 

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  On 5/19/2023 at 5:47 PM, SCBills said:


Are you Ukrainian?

 

Honest question, because I don’t know…

 

I fail to understand how anyone without heritage ties could be this excitable about furthering a proxy war with a nuclear power.

 

Maybe you just really like war and/or really hate territorial expansion, however I’ve really never seen any self reflection or anger towards the US and our constant aggression in the Middle East and/or territorial land disputes happening African nations like Yemen, with American bombs being dropped on civilians by the Saudis. 

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Maybe he's just rooting for the good guys?  Ukraine may be corrupt but they're trying to Westernize (hard to do when big brother interferes with everything).  We just let Russia run through Ukraine they'll target someone else.  Plans already slipped for Moldova and the Baltics (I'm sure the conspiracy theories say it's fake).  

 

Besides it's an amazing story.   A world superpower is getting b slapped by a tiny country because of superior tech and an utterly inept army.

 

 

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