Democracy’s Fiery Ordeal: The War in Ukraine 🇺🇦

[Tommy Callahan]

6 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

I think a general rule is men and women that have faced the reality of combat situations and warfare tend to be very discriminating and careful to commit to it again with their lives or the lives of others.   

you had it at "Lives"

 

 

[Tiberius]

1 hour ago, Chris farley said:

Its telling the ones that are the loudest about war in some foreign land, are not military or have ties to the industry.

 

Starting to think some are like gun fetish folks. probably watching them videos of bombs falling on people with glee.

 

 

If you are going to smear people that believe in supporting those fighting for freedom, democracy and against tyranny and autocracy, you are doing a poor job. 

 

"Starting to think..." lol 

[Tommy Callahan]

Nice word salad of talking points used as an argument for war mongering.

 

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

If you are going to smear people that believe in supporting those fighting for freedom, democracy and against tyranny and autocracy, you are doing a poor job. 

 

"Starting to think..." lol 

He's saying the people pushing others into war to die while personally profiting or benefiting from the conflict are mostly gutless cowards.

[SoCal Deek]

1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

I think a general rule is men and women that have faced the reality of combat situations and warfare tend to be very discriminating and careful to commit to it again with their lives or the lives of others.   

I’ve never been in combat but I think this ‘war’ is nothing short of immature, ridiculous behavior by ALL involved. 

[Tiberius]

2 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

He's saying the people pushing others into war to die while personally profiting or benefiting from the conflict are mostly gutless cowards.

He's a cry baby complaining about us helping a people defend themselves from a guy who helped Donald Trump win in 2016, that's where the crybabyism comes from. 

[BillStime]

3 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

I’ve never been in combat but I think this ‘war’ is nothing short of immature, ridiculous behavior by ALL involved. 

 

That sounds a lot like "very fine people on both sides ..."

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said:

I’ve never been in combat but I think this ‘war’ is nothing short of immature, ridiculous behavior by ALL involved. 

Even those defending their rights to be free, independent and safe???? 

 

Huh? 

 

You seriously think the Ukrainians are behaving in bad behavior defending themselves? 

[SoCal Deek]

47 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Even those defending their rights to be free, independent and safe???? 

 

Huh? 

 

You seriously think the Ukrainians are behaving in bad behavior defending themselves? 

Nice try Tibs. No, I think the remainder of the so-called Free World are being absolutely ridiculous with both their actions and rhetoric while they stand by and watch a civilized country get shelled. 

[B-Man]

 

You know, you can think that Vladimir Putin is an anti-American ass, and even sympathize with Ukranians for resisting invaders, and still not believe that America should either write a blank check to Ukraine or shed any blood in its defense.

 

 

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[All_Pro_Bills]

2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

He's a cry baby complaining about us helping a people defend themselves from a guy who helped Donald Trump win in 2016, that's where the crybabyism comes from. 

How many votes did this "help" change from Hillary to Trump? 

 

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/inconvenient-facts/201908/did-russian-interference-change-votes-in-2016

Edited March 14, 2023 by All_Pro_Bills

[BillStime]

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

You know, you can think that Vladimir Putin is an anti-American ass, and even sympathize with Ukranians for resisting invaders, and still not believe that America should either write a blank check to Ukraine or shed any blood in its defense.

 

 

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lmao - omfg - please go cut-n-paste at your safe place... 

 

 

[Doc]

6 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

How many votes did this "help" change from Hillary to Trump? 

 

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/inconvenient-facts/201908/did-russian-interference-change-votes-in-2016

 

Only the simple believed that a million or so spent by Russia could overcome a billion-plus spent by Hilly.  But they did Putin's work for him anyway.

[Big Blitz]

Fascinating.  Just like the Nazis.  Hitler tried to rewrite the “rules” for Christianity - reawakening was essentially just worship the Nazis.  
 

Ukrainian flags in your profile pics are the result of Nazi style brainwashing.  Nice job.  
 

 

[Tiberius]

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R), a probable presidential candidate, has decided that if you can’t beat the pro-Putin wing of the Republican Party, then join them. He declared that Russia’s brutal and unjustified war of aggression against a sovereign Ukraine is actually “a territorial dispute between Ukraine and Russia” and that protecting Ukraine is not a “vital” national interest of the United States. His implicit agreement with Russian President Vladimir Putin that Ukraine has no right to territorial integrity contradicts the view of 140 United Nations member countries and gives oxygen to the Russian propaganda effort. (If Mexico invaded Texas, would it be a “territorial dispute”?) DeSantis’s betrayal of Ukraine (delivered in a statement read on Monday on pro-Putin propagandist Tucker Carlson’s show, no less) is an ominous indication of where DeSantis and the GOP base are heading on the defense of democracy and American foreign policy.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/03/15/desantis-ukraine-maga/

21 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

How many votes did this "help" change from Hillary to Trump? 

 

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/inconvenient-facts/201908/did-russian-interference-change-votes-in-2016

Doesn't have to of been any to have tried and help Trump. If a person breaks into your house but can't break open the safe, they are still criminals 

 

 

[Tiberius]

Russia’s monthly oil export revenue sank in February to $11.6 billion, a precipitous 42 percent drop from the same time last year, according to figures published by the International Energy Agency. The sharp fall came the same month as the European Union’s price cap on refined Russian oil products such as diesel and fuel oil took effect. In a speech to Russian lawmakers Wednesday, Russian Energy Minister Nikolai Shulginov said he expected both gas and oil production to decline this year, the state-run Tass news agency reported.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/03/15/russia-ukraine-war-news/

[SoCal Deek]

38 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Russia’s monthly oil export revenue sank in February to $11.6 billion, a precipitous 42 percent drop from the same time last year, according to figures published by the International Energy Agency. The sharp fall came the same month as the European Union’s price cap on refined Russian oil products such as diesel and fuel oil took effect. In a speech to Russian lawmakers Wednesday, Russian Energy Minister Nikolai Shulginov said he expected both gas and oil production to decline this year, the state-run Tass news agency reported.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/03/15/russia-ukraine-war-news/

Morning Tibs

So as our resident expert on all things Ukraine, what do you think this means for the coming year? 

[Tiberius]

8 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Morning Tibs

So as our resident expert on all things Ukraine, what do you think this means for the coming year? 

My guess, more dead Russians, a Uk Counter-offensive that will cut off Crimea and more Russian bluster  

[Joe Ferguson forever]

Another wedge issue for the R's

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/a-republican-civil-war-on-ukraine-erupts-as-reagan-s-example-fades/ar-AA18Ehiq

[SoCal Deek]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

My guess, more dead Russians, a Uk Counter-offensive that will cut off Crimea and more Russian bluster  

Ha! I read UK as Great Britain. 😳