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Democracy’s Fiery Ordeal: The War in Ukraine 🇺🇦


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2 hours ago, Roundybout said:

 

Can't get me enuf sartre...

"Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past."

 

Jean-Paul Sartre

 

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19 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

Can't get me enuf sartre...

"Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past."

 

Jean-Paul Sartre

 


that’s rich coming from someone who supports creating fake nazi propaganda that undermines Jewish people who actually are being attacked

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5 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

centuries of hatred. dating from Hagar and Ishmael.  The Nazis are pretty new

Especially the ones that are made up in the minds of irrational people imagining they are recruiting hikers 

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Ukraine war: Russia's Wagner boss suggests 'betrayal' in Bakhmut battle

The head of Russia's Wagner private army has said it is not getting the ammunition it needs from Moscow, as it seeks to gain control of Bakhmut.

 

Russian troops - from Wagner and regular Russian forces - are trying to seize the eastern city from Ukraine.

But Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin has complained of a lack of ammunition, saying it could be "ordinary bureaucracy or a betrayal".

 

Relations between Wagner and Moscow seem increasingly tense.

The Wagner group has tens of thousands of troops in Ukraine - some recruited directly from Russian prisons - and has become a key part of Moscow's invasion.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64859780

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1 hour ago, ALF said:

Ukraine war: Russia's Wagner boss suggests 'betrayal' in Bakhmut battle

The head of Russia's Wagner private army has said it is not getting the ammunition it needs from Moscow, as it seeks to gain control of Bakhmut.

 

Russian troops - from Wagner and regular Russian forces - are trying to seize the eastern city from Ukraine.

But Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin has complained of a lack of ammunition, saying it could be "ordinary bureaucracy or a betrayal".

 

Relations between Wagner and Moscow seem increasingly tense.

The Wagner group has tens of thousands of troops in Ukraine - some recruited directly from Russian prisons - and has become a key part of Moscow's invasion.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64859780

Now that's a damn shame 

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On 3/4/2023 at 5:19 PM, Coffeesforclosers said:

 

Twitterbrain is real.

 

Were I Russia, I'd want to stop this war as quickly as possible. Usually when global diplomats are laughing in the face of your foreign minister...in public...it means you've lost respect. Certainly nobody laughed at Russia before this war started.  But they do now.  Even Colin Powell's bogus bull#### on Iraq and WMDs was received with more dignity that Lavrov's moralizing talking points.

 

 

 

 

 

 

But Powell is a close second.

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6 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Psychopath.

 

 

 

Confirmation from some war advocates by saying the quiet part out loud that the rallying cry of supporting democracy and territorial sovereignty from the guys that have violated the territorial sovereignty of more nations than anyone else.  But always for a good cause.  That disguise is off the real motive.  Which is to supply money and weapons in order to weaken Russia's war capabilities at the expense of Ukrainian lives.  Who could have guessed?  

 

So how much of that $100 Billion went into the bank accounts of leadership in for the price of selling out their own people to do Washington's dirty work?  Hell or high water the US government is going to fight tooth and nail in order to stop us from finding out.

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2 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

In what may be the biggest news regarding the conflict in Ukraine since it began, The New York Times is now reporting that U.S. officials believe a pro-Ukrainian group blew up the Nordstream 2 pipeline.

 

 

So it wasn't Biden then? 

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20 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Confirmation from some war advocates by saying the quiet part out loud that the rallying cry of supporting democracy and territorial sovereignty from the guys that have violated the territorial sovereignty of more nations than anyone else.  But always for a good cause.  That disguise is off the real motive.  Which is to supply money and weapons in order to weaken Russia's war capabilities at the expense of Ukrainian lives.  Who could have guessed?  

 

So how much of that $100 Billion went into the bank accounts of leadership in for the price of selling out their own people to do Washington's dirty work?  Hell or high water the US government is going to fight tooth and nail in order to stop us from finding out.

Or, the Ukranians are choosing to fight an aggressor who has invaded their country and has directly targeted civilians, civilian infrastructure and committed numerous war crimes??  Mebbe...

 

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50 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

So it wasn't Biden then? 

Oh, we definitely did it although Old Joe doesn't know nuthin...not unless he is on a SEAL team or some secret US Navy deep ocean warfare secret squirrel nut unit.   Biden's not in control though,  the deep state is...and remember,  he is too demented to be able to cognitively recognize anything that is happening or even what he is doing.   So, the shot was called by the nemesis of Gen Flynn, his old bunkmate from back in his enlisted days who went the Navy route, wears a patch,  and is still bothered by a scar from the same bar fight which drove him and Flynn onto separate paths. (He rubs it every time he thinks of Flynn) He became the deepest, darkest deep stater, while Flynn became the humble leader of Qanon in a search for truth and light in a DEEP, DARK state.  That's who did it, that guy did it...   

 

Did I do this right?? Asking for a friend.   

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3 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

In what may be the biggest news regarding the conflict in Ukraine since it began, The New York Times is now reporting that U.S. officials believe a pro-Ukrainian group blew up the Nordstream 2 pipeline.

 

 

This intelligence community story sounds like the plot line of an episode of The Blacklist.  It refutes the original contention the Russians did it, refutes Hersch's investigative piece which implicates the US planning and execution and pins the deed on some unknown group of Ukrainian and Russian dissidents.  An unnamed, and somehow unknown until now group that has the capacity and resources to plant and detonate 1,000 lbs of explosives requiring a difficult dive while going completely undetected, until now.  All performed undetected and effectively without detection in an area under extremely high levels of surveillance given the potential for hostilities.   Suddenly, US intelligence has found the culprit while exonerating itself and all its allies.  Talk about luck and coincidence!  I mean, at least in the past these agencies had the expertise to produce propaganda pieces which had a high level of credence while weaving some known facts into the story but this one is a whopper of a story that I find preposterous.  What's next?  The agencies are going to conclude the Capitol video provided to Carlson is fabricated and all manufactured by the Russians which hacked the Capitol systems and replaced the original video log?  Wait for that one!   

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1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

This intelligence community story sounds like the plot line of an episode of The Blacklist.  It refutes the original contention the Russians did it, refutes Hersch's investigative piece which implicates the US planning and execution and pins the deed on some unknown group of Ukrainian and Russian dissidents.  An unnamed, and somehow unknown until now group that has the capacity and resources to plant and detonate 1,000 lbs of explosives requiring a difficult dive while going completely undetected, until now.  All performed undetected and effectively without detection in an area under extremely high levels of surveillance given the potential for hostilities.   Suddenly, US intelligence has found the culprit while exonerating itself and all its allies.  Talk about luck and coincidence!  I mean, at least in the past these agencies had the expertise to produce propaganda pieces which had a high level of credence while weaving some known facts into the story but this one is a whopper of a story that I find preposterous.  What's next?  The agencies are going to conclude the Capitol video provided to Carlson is fabricated and all manufactured by the Russians which hacked the Capitol systems and replaced the original video log?  Wait for that one!   

 

 

It was the U.S.

 

This tact is just part of the "proxy war"

 

P.S.  I love The Blacklist.

 

 

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