CoudyBills Posted October 4, 2022 Posted October 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: But once Putin went all Hitler on Ukraine it was right for us to help destroy his fascist puke army, right? No 43 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Some are loyal. Not all certainly. If a real referendum were held in the east I'm confident most would not want to secede. A real referendum has been held, 3 times
B-Man Posted October 4, 2022 Posted October 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: But once Putin went all Hitler on Ukraine it was right for us to help destroy his fascist Communist puke army, right? But you knew that. .
Tiberius Posted October 4, 2022 Author Posted October 4, 2022 Trying to help Putin any way he can Liberation
ALF Posted October 5, 2022 Posted October 5, 2022 Russia champions Elon Musk's 'peace' proposal, Ukraine rejects Musk as two-faced Musk sparks outrage in Twitter polls proposing Ukraine give up land to Russia The Kremlin on Wednesday applauded Telsa CEO Elon Musk’s suggestion that Ukraine should capitulate its territory illegally seized by Russia to end the war. https://www.foxnews.com/world/russia-champions-elon-musks-peace-proposal-ukraine-rejects-musk-two-faced appeasement worked before WWll , oh wait 1
Tiberius Posted October 6, 2022 Author Posted October 6, 2022 19 hours ago, B-Man said: Scuttling a peace deal? What deal? Musk's? Nikki is right on
L Ron Burgundy Posted October 6, 2022 Posted October 6, 2022 On 10/3/2022 at 6:52 PM, Tiberius said: oh brother I was thinking that I don't believe this chick is nuts ala mgt. I think she made a calculated decision to start talking crazy to make bank. I could be wrong. 1
Coffeesforclosers Posted October 6, 2022 Posted October 6, 2022 Simple solution. 1. Russia gives back all the land they've captured, including Crimea. 2. Ukraine pledges perpetual neutrality. No EU, no NATO, no foreign troops, no foreign bases. 3. Ukraine gets their nukes back, or gets to make new ones. That should keep them independent. If they want to be dumb thats on them. Russia's proven that having tons of nukes doesn't save you from your own stupidity. I thought they'd learn from us, but their national inferiority complex is so huge they really do have to be better than us at everything. 1
Coffeesforclosers Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: I'm gonna laugh if the next season of Deadliest Catch is just the skippers saving Russian draft dodgers. 1 1
B-Man Posted October 7, 2022 Posted October 7, 2022 ‘They Are in a Panic’: Ukraine’s Troops Size Up the Enemy The New York Times ^ | October 7, 2022 | Carlotta Gall Racing down a road with his men in pursuit of retreating Russian soldiers, a battalion commander came across an abandoned Russian armored vehicle, its engine still running. Inside there was a sniper rifle, rocket propelled grenades, helmets and belongings. The men were gone. “They dropped everything: personal care, helmets,” said the commander, who uses the code name Swat. “I think it was a special unit, but they were panicking. It was raining very hard, the road was bad and they drop everything and move.” After months of static fighting and holding the line under withering Russian artillery barrages, Ukrainian soldiers are exulting over their smashing of Russian lines in the northeast three weeks ago, and their recapturing of swaths of territory seized by Russian troops earlier this year. They have almost retaken the whole of Kharkiv Province, as well as territory in each of the four regions that President Vladimir V. Putin claims to have annexed for Russia. There has been little time for reflection for the Ukrainians as they press their counterattack, focused on keeping the pressure on the retreating Russian army to prevent it from regrouping. Yet after months in the trenches never seeing the faces of the enemy, Ukrainian soldiers and commanders have now engaged the Russians up close and gotten a chance to size up their opponent. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/07/world/europe/ukraine-war-fighters.html 2
Tiberius Posted October 7, 2022 Author Posted October 7, 2022 George Will gets it. Russia is in the business of exporting its sadism. MAGA is based on Russian ignorance, cruelty and attempted thuggery https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/10/07/putin-russian-cruelty-ukraine/ Is Russia’s endemic cruelty (and the related, rabble-like looting by Russian soldiers, stealing everything portable, from screwdrivers to televisions) germane to U.S. policy regarding Ukraine? The answer: Putin has correctly cast this as a civilizational conflict. Were he visiting violence and corruption only on Russians, the West would have neither prudential reason nor practical means to restrain him. The history of the previous century, however, teaches the pertinence of a nation’s internal dynamics to its external behavior. Putin’s Russia has a metabolic urge to export its pathologies, becoming the collectivist alternative to open societies of rights-bearing individuals fulfilled through private rather than nationalist aspirations. If this export is not defeated — if the West chooses, in the name of “realism,” to let it metastasize, which it may — the West will wither from self-loathing, and will deserve to.
yall Posted October 8, 2022 Posted October 8, 2022 On 10/7/2022 at 10:31 AM, Tiberius said: George Will gets it. Russia is in the business of exporting its sadism. MAGA is based on Russian ignorance, cruelty and attempted thuggery https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/10/07/putin-russian-cruelty-ukraine/ Is Russia’s endemic cruelty (and the related, rabble-like looting by Russian soldiers, stealing everything portable, from screwdrivers to televisions) germane to U.S. policy regarding Ukraine? The answer: Putin has correctly cast this as a civilizational conflict. Were he visiting violence and corruption only on Russians, the West would have neither prudential reason nor practical means to restrain him. The history of the previous century, however, teaches the pertinence of a nation’s internal dynamics to its external behavior. Putin’s Russia has a metabolic urge to export its pathologies, becoming the collectivist alternative to open societies of rights-bearing individuals fulfilled through private rather than nationalist aspirations. If this export is not defeated — if the West chooses, in the name of “realism,” to let it metastasize, which it may — the West will wither from self-loathing, and will deserve to. How you manage to invoke Trump or MAGA based upon any combination of words from that article is truly bizarre. I ***** hate Trump and think the MAGA idiots are mostly just that; idiots. But damn dude, you need help. 1
Tiberius Posted October 8, 2022 Author Posted October 8, 2022 1 hour ago, yall said: How you manage to invoke Trump or MAGA based upon any combination of words from that article is truly bizarre. I ***** hate Trump and think the MAGA idiots are mostly just that; idiots. But damn dude, you need help. Trump is a tool of the authoritarian regimes that were thrilled to get him in our seat of power. Trump was already sabotaging Ukraine's defence. Thank God the American people booted him
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