Tiberius Posted March 28, 2022 Author Posted March 28, 2022 55 minutes ago, Doc said: What are you talking about? None of those were under Trump. He wasn't waiting for Biden so much as he was waiting for Trump to be out of office. What part of that do you all not understand? Putin was waiting for Trump to be out of office? Why?
Doc Posted March 28, 2022 Posted March 28, 2022 52 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Putin was waiting for Trump to be out of office? Why? You know why. Why didn't he do it while he was in office?
BillStime Posted March 28, 2022 Posted March 28, 2022 22 minutes ago, Doc said: You know why. Why didn't he do it while he was in office? BECAUSE TRUMP GAVE PUTIN EVERYTHING ELSE HE WANTED AND MORE... you think Trump handing over Ukraine to Putin during Trump's first term was going to settle well with the US voters and the world? THINK Seriously, so many freakn idiots out there. 1
Tiberius Posted March 28, 2022 Author Posted March 28, 2022 36 minutes ago, Doc said: You know why. Why didn't he do it while he was in office? Putin was trying. He already occupied part of country, was fighting in other parts and then he tried undermining the election in 2019.
SoCal Deek Posted March 28, 2022 Posted March 28, 2022 26 minutes ago, BillStime said: BECAUSE TRUMP GAVE PUTIN EVERYTHING ELSE HE WANTED AND MORE... you think Trump handing over Ukraine to Putin during Trump's first term was going to settle well with the US voters and the world? THINK Seriously, so many freakn idiots out there. Putin has turned Ukranian cities into rubble with Biden in office.....and it's Trump's fault? Come on BillSy. You have to know this doesn't pass the smell test of ANYONE other than you and Tibs. There are things you can argue about, but this is NOT one of them. It just makes you look foolish.
BillStime Posted March 28, 2022 Posted March 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Putin has turned Ukranian cities into rubble with Biden in office.....and it's Trump's fault? Come on BillSy. You have to know this doesn't pass the smell test of ANYONE other than you and Tibs. There are things you can argue about, but this is NOT one of them. It just makes you look foolish. No, this makes the cult foolish: 59 minutes ago, Doc said: Why didn't he do it while he was in office? Keep up
SoCal Deek Posted March 28, 2022 Posted March 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, BillStime said: No, this makes the cult foolish: I'm not going to try and rob you of your delusions. Whatever floats your boat. You seem to revel in them.
Buffarukus Posted March 28, 2022 Posted March 28, 2022 40 minutes ago, BillStime said: BECAUSE TRUMP GAVE PUTIN EVERYTHING ELSE HE WANTED AND MORE... you think Trump handing over Ukraine to Putin during Trump's first term was going to settle well with the US voters and the world? THINK Seriously, so many freakn idiots out there. we are over a year into this presidency. is there ever going to be a point where biden should be responsible for the negative consequences that are resulting from this administration or only positive? are you going to go the entire term blaming trump..meaning biden can litterally do no wrong. that my friend is cultish behavior. you lash out at everyone else because they are looking at the present day problems and the present day administration."its not the guy who is currently in charges fault!" stepping back for just a brief moment if that's possible. that doesnt strike you as odd? whatever the reason russia didnt kill thousands and put us on the brink of nuclear war during trumps administration. why ever you think that is. ill take and so would the Ukrainian victims. you throwing out...it would have happened under trump is hypothetical and means nothing seeing as IT IS HAPPENING under biden. so that means biden did absolutely nothing to prevent your outcome even though he campaigned he would fix the exact issues you say lead to this. 1
Doc Posted March 28, 2022 Posted March 28, 2022 36 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Putin has turned Ukranian cities into rubble with Biden in office.....and it's Trump's fault? Come on BillSy. You have to know this doesn't pass the smell test of ANYONE other than you and Tibs. There are things you can argue about, but this is NOT one of them. It just makes you look foolish. He doesn't care if it passes the smell test. It's feelz over facts, remember?
BillStime Posted March 28, 2022 Posted March 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Buffarukus said: we are over a year into this presidency. is there ever going to be a point where biden should be responsible for the negative consequences that are resulting from this administration or only positive? are you going to go the entire term blaming trump..meaning biden can litterally do no wrong. that my friend is cultish behavior. you lash out at everyone else because they are looking at the present day problems and the present day administration."its not the guy who is currently in charges fault!" stepping back for just a brief moment if that's possible. that doesnt strike you as odd? whatever the reason russia didnt kill thousands and put us on the brink of nuclear war during trumps administration. why ever you think that is. ill take and so would the Ukrainian victims. you throwing out...it would have happened under trump is hypothetical and means nothing seeing as IT IS HAPPENING under biden. so that means biden did absolutely nothing to prevent your outcome even though he campaigned he would fix the exact issues you say lead to this. Can you explain to me how Biden could have prevented Putin from invading Ukraine?
aristocrat Posted March 28, 2022 Posted March 28, 2022 1 hour ago, BillStime said: BECAUSE TRUMP GAVE PUTIN EVERYTHING ELSE HE WANTED AND MORE... you think Trump handing over Ukraine to Putin during Trump's first term was going to settle well with the US voters and the world? THINK Seriously, so many freakn idiots out there. What exactly did he give them? Some praise? Cause it seems all that happened was Russia ended up with sanctions that ended up getting lifted by Biden with no negotiation just hey we're dropping these sanctions and you can open your pipeline.
BillStime Posted March 28, 2022 Posted March 28, 2022 1 minute ago, aristocrat said: What exactly did he give them? Some praise? Cause it seems all that happened was Russia ended up with sanctions that ended up getting lifted by Biden with no negotiation just hey we're dropping these sanctions and you can open your pipeline. Are you talking about Trump's useless sanctions on the GERMAN-RUSSIAN pipeline that impeded it how?
Buffarukus Posted March 28, 2022 Posted March 28, 2022 1 minute ago, BillStime said: Can you explain to me how Biden could have prevented Putin from invading Ukraine? no you explain it. he ran on alot of promises that he was better so why is he not accountable when it was false.
aristocrat Posted March 28, 2022 Posted March 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, BillStime said: Are you talking about Trump's useless sanctions on the GERMAN-RUSSIAN pipeline that impeded it how? So if they were useless why did Biden have to undo them? What exactly did Trump give Russia that has made Biden not at fault whatsoever for this war? 1
BillStime Posted March 28, 2022 Posted March 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Buffarukus said: no you explain it. he ran on alot of promises that he was better so why is he not accountable when it was false. Ahhhhh - nice. A swing and a miss.
BillStime Posted March 28, 2022 Posted March 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, aristocrat said: So if they were useless why did Biden have to undo them? What exactly did Trump give Russia that has made Biden not at fault whatsoever for this war? Um, he threw a bone to Germany since the pipeline was pretty much done. It was MEANINGLESS. Who needed the pipeline more - Germany or Russia?
aristocrat Posted March 28, 2022 Posted March 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, BillStime said: Um, he threw a bone to Germany since the pipeline was pretty much done. It was MEANINGLESS. Who needed the pipeline more - Germany or Russia? Again, what did Trump give them that gives Biden a total pass on this war?
Tiberius Posted March 28, 2022 Author Posted March 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, aristocrat said: What exactly did he give them? Some praise? Cause it seems all that happened was Russia ended up with sanctions that ended up getting lifted by Biden with no negotiation just hey we're dropping these sanctions and you can open your pipeline. You mean like how he softened the GOP platform on Ukraine? Boy, that looks damning in hindsight 15 minutes ago, Buffarukus said: no you explain it. he ran on alot of promises that he was better so why is he not accountable when it was false. Huh? He ran on a promise to stop an invasion of Ukraine? 🙄 4 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Again, what did Trump give them that gives Biden a total pass on this war? This makes no sense. Can you re-phrase? 1
aristocrat Posted March 28, 2022 Posted March 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You mean like how he softened the GOP platform on Ukraine? Boy, that looks damning in hindsight So at what point does Biden stand on his own platform? Or do you just plan on blaming everything on Trump no matter what?
Tiberius Posted March 28, 2022 Author Posted March 28, 2022 Just now, aristocrat said: So at what point does Biden stand on his own platform? Or do you just plan on blaming everything on Trump no matter what? You mean the low unemployment?
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