Chef Jim Posted March 26, 2022 Posted March 26, 2022 49 minutes ago, sherpa said: I thought Hong Kong was turned over to China by the British in 1997. 1
Doc Posted March 26, 2022 Posted March 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Coffeesforclosers said: Probably not, and we'd have gone on eating up Russia's bluffs. Their military is a thin coat of super modern equipment, on top of a mountain of ***** run by poorly trained, poorly led, poorly motivated soldiers. But all Trump saw was "Tough Guy" Putin and the fancy gear they hauled out for military parades, and was very, very impressed. Just like he was supposed to be. Trump got took by a "Very Savvy" guy. Of course, now we know that Tsar Vladimir the Insane has no clothes, no thanks to Trump... No, probably. 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Really? Love how you guys throw out "facts" like that. Why would you say that, anyway? You think Putin respects Trump, so he wouldn't do his genius move? Remember it was Trump who held up weapons for Ukraine for a favor. Disgraceful! Hong Kong was lost on Trump's watch. The fact is that in the years before and after Trump, Putin didn't invade Ukraine. You can spout out all the silly "he was doing Putin's work for him [when it was really the Dems doing that with their Russian collusion/agent bull####]," but most of us know better. 1
Tiberius Posted March 26, 2022 Author Posted March 26, 2022 1 hour ago, sherpa said: I thought Hong Kong was turned over to China by the British in 1997. Oh, you didn’t hear what happened with China there recently? Nothing? 23 minutes ago, Doc said: No, probably. The fact is that in the years before and after Trump, Putin didn't invade Ukraine. You can spout out all the silly "he was doing Putin's work for him [when it was really the Dems doing that with their Russian collusion/agent bull####]," but most of us know better. He’s been pretty busy murdering people for decades. Do you agree with Biden’s strategy? Seems to be working as far as getting Russia’s army destroyed.
sherpa Posted March 26, 2022 Posted March 26, 2022 13 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Oh, you didn’t hear what happened with China there recently? Nothing? He’s been pretty busy murdering people for decades. What I "heard" was in 1898, (not 1998), Great Britain agreed to turn over Hong Kong to China in 99 years. That was done in 1997. Your next claim, which would make about as much sense, is the Trump turned over Jesus to the Roman rulers in Jerusalem. I can't stand Trump, but you sure bring discredit to yourself when you offer ridiculous assertions.
Tiberius Posted March 26, 2022 Author Posted March 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, sherpa said: What I "heard" was in 1898, (not 1998), Great Britain agreed to turn over Hong Kong to China in 99 years. That was done in 1997. Your next claim, which would make about as much sense, is the Trump turned over Jesus to the Roman rulers in Jerusalem. I can't stand Trump, but you sure bring discredit to yourself when you offer ridiculous assertions. So when Hong Kong lost their constitutional liberties its was none of our business, correct? That’s your argument, is it not? Just yes or no will suffice
sherpa Posted March 26, 2022 Posted March 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: So when Hong Kong lost their constitutional liberties its was none of our business, correct? That’s your argument, is it not? Just yes or no will suffice You ask stupid questions, based on idiotic premises, then tell someone what an acceptable response is? The US, nor any other country for that matter, does not have the ability to dictate internal politics of other countries. Hong Kong was turned over in 1997. The US, nor any US president, and there have been a few since then and have watched this. You can't go to war every time sovereign nations do what they do. Let me ask you a few things, and unlike you, I won't tell you how to answer. Have you ever been to Russia or China? Since the US doesn't control either, does it make sense to you to waste a generation of our youth to try to force something you can't control and really have no standing, (a legal term, but appropriate), in? Last, do you really think this crack team of Biden and Harris with a Dem Senate and House would have caused events in the China/Hong Kong dynamic to have progressed differently? 1
Doc Posted March 26, 2022 Posted March 26, 2022 38 minutes ago, Tiberius said: He’s been pretty busy murdering people for decades. Do you agree with Biden’s strategy? Seems to be working as far as getting Russia’s army destroyed. What "strategy"? Looking incompetent with his pullout from Afghanistan and signalling to Russia that he can invade Ukraine? No, Putin grossly miscalculated his country's might, the will of the Ukrainian people and the world's response. 1 1
BillStime Posted March 26, 2022 Posted March 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Doc said: What "strategy"? Looking incompetent with his pullout from Afghanistan and signalling to Russia that he can invade Ukraine? No, Putin grossly miscalculated his country's might, the will of the Ukrainian people and the world's response. Who negotiated handing over Afghanistan to terrorists in 2020? Keep singing the Fox News talking point which is recycled every day on that network. Meanwhile 1
Tiberius Posted March 26, 2022 Author Posted March 26, 2022 Just now, BillStime said: Who negotiated handing over Afghanistan to terrorists in 2020? Keep singing the Fox News talking point which is recycled every day on that network. Meanwhile Can anyone imagine Trump not trashing the United States intelligence services when they would of been --rightly--saying Putin was about to invade? He would of just gone off on them, saying they were part of the problem, not Putin. Thank god ---and American voters--for dumping the Putin poppet!
sherpa Posted March 26, 2022 Posted March 26, 2022 15 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Can anyone imagine Trump not trashing the United States intelligence services when they would of been --rightly--saying Putin was about to invade? He would of just gone off on them, saying they were part of the problem, not Putin. Thank god ---and American voters--for dumping the Putin poppet! I'm sure your next imaginary narrative that has never happened will be just as convincing. 2
Big Blitz Posted March 26, 2022 Posted March 26, 2022 Yep I did. I'm so glad we're in this distraction I mean fight from I mean for Democracy or freedom or the thing. Whatever it is. Speaking of fights for Democracy.....the global racists aligned with your Democrat party didn't care about the brown people in Afghanistan. 1
BillStime Posted March 26, 2022 Posted March 26, 2022 18 minutes ago, sherpa said: I'm sure your next imaginary narrative that has never happened will be just as convincing. White washing history again?
sherpa Posted March 26, 2022 Posted March 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, BillStime said: White washing history again? What? There is no "history." It's a speculative story created as a hypothetical. Useless.
BillStime Posted March 26, 2022 Posted March 26, 2022 1 hour ago, sherpa said: What? There is no "history." It's a speculative story created as a hypothetical. Useless. Oh really...
Tiberius Posted March 27, 2022 Author Posted March 27, 2022 14 hours ago, sherpa said: I'm sure your next imaginary narrative that has never happened will be just as convincing. You sat you don’t like Trump but your hair sure rises when he is criticized. It’s not imaginary that Trump took Putin’s word over our own intelligence services. That happened. No reason to doubt that had he won the election nothing would of changed. Trump dumped our friends the Kurds, he might very well of, again, held up any aid to Ukraine. 1
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