wnyguy Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 minute ago, aristocrat said: This is her thing and I can't figure out why nobody has told her to stop laughing during serious situations. It's not a good look. To be fair the Polish PM started chuckling first and she joined in. Does not change the fact that she is incompetent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, wnyguy said: To be fair the Polish PM started chuckling first and she joined in. Does not change the fact that she is incompetent. She is the reason I root for Joe to finish his term. It could be worse. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, BillStime said: Are you seriously going to pretend Trump isn't/wasn't 100% subservient to Putin? The same guy who had a public meltdown over a missed phone call from Putin? “If Putin wants a call with me you just put him through!” Just look at some of Trump's past actions and you tell me Trump would have magically stopped Putin from invading Ukraine if he were POTUS: Conald guts the anti-Russia stance on Ukraine in the GQPs 2016 platform - who benefits? Conald constantly denies Russian hacking (as does the cult here despite the plethora of evidence) - who benefits? Conald did everything to destroy our relationships with our allies and with the EU - who benefits? Conald tried to destroy the credibility of NATO - who benefits? Conald pulled back our troops in Germany - who benefits? Conald applauded Putin's victory in Syria after handing it to him on a platter - who benefits? Conald tried to add Putin to the G7 - who benefits? Conald told Putin he could have Crimea - who benefits? Conald shared classified information with Russian operatives in 2017 - who benefits? Conald continued to buy and increase oil imports from Putin - who benefits? Conald incited a non-stop culture war on American soil - who benefits? Please - why was the America first president and CULT so eager to cater to the anti-American; anti-Democracy dictator of Russia? So orange man bad? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 23 minutes ago, Tenhigh said: So orange man bad? Real bad for our democratic republic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 22 minutes ago, BillStime said: Real bad for our democratic republic. So why didn't he just gift Ukraine to Putin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Big Blitz Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 46 minutes ago, BillStime said: Real bad for our democratic republic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, BillStime said: So Ron is comfortable lying about the fringe being the core? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Zelensky's ex press secretary That guys mad she told the truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 2 hours ago, sherpa said: Of course presidents don't control oil or other commodity prices. What they do though, undeniably, is influence the environment that effect energy producers decisions to commit capital to expand production. It cannot be denied that this administration has been openly hostile to domestic fossil energy suppliers, whether drillers or shippers. That influences capital expenditure decisions, as well it should. Hate you 'till I need you simply doesn't work. Sure, their policies can do a lot of things. But this isn't just a USA problem. This is a worldwide problem. And again, prices were going up no matter what. The Trump prices were greatly influenced by the pandemic, and as the world got more back to normal, then prices had to go up. It's always kind of funny, because people want pipeline work, but low oil prices causes pipeline work to stop, but then they complain about oil prices being high as well. Obviously there is a happy medium there, but locally oil and gas companies have been dead for 2 years now. Huge layoffs and shutdowns. Now they are hiring and working again. But Biden! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 12 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Zelensky's ex press secretary That guys mad she told the truth You are a moran. For the millionth time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, John Adams said: You are a moran. For the millionth time. Sure thing dewd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 hour ago, BillStime said: Are you seriously going to pretend Trump isn't/wasn't 100% subservient to Putin? The same guy who had a public meltdown over a missed phone call from Putin? “If Putin wants a call with me you just put him through!” Just look at some of Trump's past actions and you tell me Trump would have magically stopped Putin from invading Ukraine if he were POTUS: Conald guts the anti-Russia stance on Ukraine in the GQPs 2016 platform - who benefits? Conald constantly denies Russian hacking (as does the cult here despite the plethora of evidence) - who benefits? Conald did everything to destroy our relationships with our allies and with the EU - who benefits? Conald tried to destroy the credibility of NATO - who benefits? Conald pulled back our troops in Germany - who benefits? Conald applauded Putin's victory in Syria after handing it to him on a platter - who benefits? Conald tried to add Putin to the G7 - who benefits? Conald told Putin he could have Crimea - who benefits? Conald shared classified information with Russian operatives in 2017 - who benefits? Conald continued to buy and increase oil imports from Putin - who benefits? Conald incited a non-stop culture war on American soil - who benefits? Please - why was the America first president and CULT so eager to cater to the anti-American; anti-Democracy dictator of Russia? I'm not pretending anything. Just no way to know what would happen. I'm not Trump fan by any means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 34 minutes ago, BillStime said: Graham never saw a war he didn't like. He's a member of the Washington uni-party neocon/neoliberal war council. There people are dangerous. If they had their way we'd all be fighting and dying in trenches and foxholes across the planet. Funny the war hawks are usually the stay way back from the front lines with the women and children kind of characters while the people opposing getting involved in every conflict are soldiers and combat veterans that have seen action, lost friends and fellow soldiers, and don't take getting involved in every dust up and fight lightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 2 hours ago, BillStime said: Just look at some of Trump's past actions and you tell me Trump would have magically stopped Putin from invading Ukraine if he were POTUS: Conald guts the anti-Russia stance on Ukraine in the GQPs 2016 platform - who benefits? Conald constantly denies Russian hacking (as does the cult here despite the plethora of evidence) - who benefits? Conald did everything to destroy our relationships with our allies and with the EU - who benefits? Conald tried to destroy the credibility of NATO - who benefits? Conald pulled back our troops in Germany - who benefits? Conald applauded Putin's victory in Syria after handing it to him on a platter - who benefits? Conald tried to add Putin to the G7 - who benefits? Conald told Putin he could have Crimea - who benefits? Conald shared classified information with Russian operatives in 2017 - who benefits? Conald continued to buy and increase oil imports from Putin - who benefits? Conald incited a non-stop culture war on American soil - who benefits? Please - why was the America first president and CULT so eager to cater to the anti-American; anti-Democracy dictator of Russia? He did stop Putin from invading the Ukraine. And it wasn’t magic. It was because of all the things you mentioned. And who benefits? Looks like everyone benefited. Things were nice and calm back in the good old days. MAGA….yeah that lasted long. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 17 minutes ago, cle23 said: Sure, their policies can do a lot of things. But this isn't just a USA problem. This is a worldwide problem. And again, prices were going up no matter what. The Trump prices were greatly influenced by the pandemic, and as the world got more back to normal, then prices had to go up. It's always kind of funny, because people want pipeline work, but low oil prices causes pipeline work to stop, but then they complain about oil prices being high as well. Obviously there is a happy medium there, but locally oil and gas companies have been dead for 2 years now. Huge layoffs and shutdowns. Now they are hiring and working again. But Biden! The point is that it doesn't need to be a problem at all. The stupidity of not having a coherent energy policy gets us into these spikes over and over, and it is completely avoidable. The US has enough natural gas, much cleaner burning than anything Russia produces by the way, to supply us forever. We also have companies that produce electricity from solid oxide fuel cells. These can use extremely efficient nat gas, or bio gas or zero polluting hydrogen that doesn't rely on grid distribution, which is the huge weakness in our energy universe. The energy is produced on site, and scores of companies which do not want to be burdened by increasing power outages have installed them. If the California grid issues with wildfires and other calamities, along with Texas' gross disaster last winter don't underline grid issues and cause changes, we are stuck with this current malaise and the idiotic politicization of the issue. We got to the moon because of a united, non political challenge and goal met head on. It's all there. We simply haven't had the guts to de-politicize it and get on with the work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: He did stop Putin from invading the Ukraine. And it wasn’t magic. It was because of all the things you mentioned. And who benefits? Looks like everyone benefited. Things were nice and calm back in the good old days. MAGA….yeah that lasted long. To be fair, Trump plays whatever side of people he benefits the most from. He was buddy buddy with Putin while President, and now he says he would stand strong against Putin. It's all a crock. Putin was building up his military. Just so happens that Biden was President once he felt strong enough to attack. But it's looking like Putin misjudged Ukraine. But Trump being gone had nothing to do with it either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, cle23 said: To be fair, Trump plays whatever side of people he benefits the most from. He was buddy buddy with Putin while President, and now he says he would stand strong against Putin. It's all a crock. Putin was building up his military. Just so happens that Biden was President once he felt strong enough to attack. But it's looking like Putin misjudged Ukraine. But Trump being gone had nothing to do with it either way. Don’t you find it the least bit “coincidental” that he felt strong enough to attack 12 months into the Biden Presidency? Like I’m football a good offense is often a good defense. EDIT: Wait….did I just use a football metaphor??? Edited March 10, 2022 by Chef Jim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 10, 2022 Author Share Posted March 10, 2022 Some dude on CNN, a “war criminal ambassador” who investigated those types of things said 5he sanctions would not be removed on Russia until Russian forces are gone from Ukraine and Putin and the generals are handed over to justice to the international court. Hmmm... Not that I wouldn’t love him to get justice, but might that not prolong the suffering of Ukraine? And the Russian people for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 16 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Some dude on CNN, a “war criminal ambassador” who investigated those types of things said 5he sanctions would not be removed on Russia until Russian forces are gone from Ukraine and Putin and the generals are handed over to justice to the international court. Hmmm... Not that I wouldn’t love him to get justice, but might that not prolong the suffering of Ukraine? And the Russian people for that matter. Actions have consequences. I'm not for treating Russia like all is well and good the moment they retreat back across the border. They are now in the club with North Korea and can stay there as far as the US is concerned. Countries like Germany will probably need the oil teat turned back on sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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