Democracy’s Fiery Ordeal: The War in Ukraine 🇺🇦

[Buffarukus]

6 hours ago, Tiberius said:

If the media had not sounded the alarm Trump would of sat on the missiles, and if he would won the election, he never would of sent them. If he got the corrupt investigation he wanted, it would of been used to try and sour the relationship between Democrats and Ukrainian democracy. 

 

 

 

what was this about? 

 

it sounds like a perfectly clear admission of threatening to hold US aid as blackmail. the exact thing you are talking about. why is this different? if it was blackmail then should it be. given the exact same standard for impeachment proceedings?

 

if not, why the double standard? you are outraged by those actions right?

 

 

Edited March 7, 2022 by Buffarukus

[Tiberius]

6 hours ago, Buffarukus said:

 

 

 

what was this about? 

 

it sounds like a perfectly clear admission of threatening to hold US aid as blackmail. the exact thing you are talking about. why is this different? if it was blackmail then should it be. given the exact same standard for impeachment proceedings?

 

if not, why the double standard? you are outraged by those actions right?

 

 

Ya sure, lol 

[Doc]

8 hours ago, Buffarukus said:

 

 

 

what was this about? 

 

it sounds like a perfectly clear admission of threatening to hold US aid as blackmail. the exact thing you are talking about. why is this different? if it was blackmail then should it be. given the exact same standard for impeachment proceedings?

 

if not, why the double standard? you are outraged by those actions right?

 

Because Joey's just a swell guy who doesn't mean tweet.  And therefore his actual extortion isn't as bad as Trump's alleged extortion. 

[Tiberius]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

Because Joey's just a swell guy who doesn't mean tweet.  And therefore his actual extortion isn't as bad as Trump's alleged extortion. 

Trump is finished. 

[Doc]

19 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Trump is finished. 

 

Not nearly as much as Joey is.

[Tiberius]

3 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Not nearly as much as Joey is.

The President? Naw, he's the President. 

 

Trump, not so much 

 

Never will be again  

[Motorin']

 

Not that I trust Russia, but as long by "cease military action" they mean stop fighting and not permanently disband the military, this is not a terrible outcome. 

 

Ukraine could end this madness if they take this deal. 

 

[Tiberius]

Raytheon stock up 34% this year 

 

https://www.google.com/finance/quote/RTX:NYSE?window=1Y

 

Guess what they make 

[Westside]

1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

Raytheon stock up 34% this year 

 

https://www.google.com/finance/quote/RTX:NYSE?window=1Y

 

Guess what they make 

Covid vaccines?

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, Westside said:

Covid vaccines?

Nope! 

[TSOL]

Defense, military tech 

[TH3]

12 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

Convincing people that the fight in Ukraine is about freedom and democracy is really rather sickening - especially after our white leftist racist elitists said it wasn't possible in countries that are majority brown.  Sick racists.   

 

Sorry you don't sacrifice Crimea and allow Russia to escalate like this in a matter of less then a year, continue to cut and limit our own oil and gas production because you propped up Greta Thornburg like you did Zelensky in Ukraine, and suddenly claim the world must act.    

 

Nope.  You are all failures.  Canceling Putin and actual Russians all over the world is pathetic and itself anti-freedom. 

 

You're a weak group of losers who lost all trust and credibility during covid and the entire 4 years Trump was president who faced more scrutiny and attacks based on lies in a day by American mass media then we have given China in 2 years since Covid - and their essential take over of Hong Kong. 

 

And any Republican going along with this madness (they are because they are still neo cons or they're terrified of being canceled) can go pound sand.  

seek help

[sherpa]

45 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Raytheon stock up 34% this year 

 

Guess what they make 

 

And it's really good stuff.

[All_Pro_Bills]

34 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Raytheon stock up 34% this year 

 

https://www.google.com/finance/quote/RTX:NYSE?window=1Y

 

Guess what they make 

Nobody ever said the perpetual US government war machine was bad for the defense business.  And the defense industry is where former Pentagon generals and procurement officers find work after "retirement".  As they say "thank you for your service" and here's your $500K a year board seat.  Quid Pro Quo I think is what its called. 

 

You know what else is up?  All the energy ETF's and funds, commodity stocks, and precious metals positions (and emerging market funds for later) I started to accumulate right after the inauguration in January 2021.  Because I concluded early on that Uncle Joe and his crew of misfits and morons would screw every up real good which would result in some higher prices, chaos, and lots of economic, social, and political disorder.  And I was right. 

 

Coming next by Summer should be things like food riots and social disorder in lots of countries around the world when food prices surge higher still and food scarcity hits.  21st century Democrats.. the party of chaos.  What a mess. 

[John Adams]

52 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Not nearly as much as Joey is.

 

You two deserve each other. Thanks for trashing up the thread. I think we need another 30 back and forths on Trump vs Biden in here since we don't get it enough elsewhere in PPP. 

Just now, All_Pro_Bills said:

Nobody ever said the perpetual US government war machine was bad for the defense business.  And the defense industry is where former Pentagon generals and procurement officers find work after "retirement".  As they say "thank you for your service" and here's your $500K a year board seat.  Quid Pro Quo I think is what its called. 

 

You know what else is up?  All the energy ETF's and funds, commodity stocks, and precious metals positions (and emerging market funds for later) I started to accumulate right after the inauguration in January 2021.  Because I concluded early on that Uncle Joe and his crew of misfits and morons would screw every up real good which would result in some higher prices, chaos, and lots of economic, social, and political disorder.  And I was right. 

 

Coming next by Summer should be things like food riots and social disorder in lots of countries around the world when food prices surge higher still and food scarcity hits.  21st century Democrats.. the party of chaos.  What a mess. 

 

I thought the food riots and downfall of civilization were coming from Covid-related shortages. Is this where you conspiracy guys are going with that specter now? 

[Tiberius]

6 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

And it's really good stuff.

That’s why it’s in hot demand  

[TSOL]

8 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Nobody ever said the perpetual US government war machine was bad for the defense business.  And the defense industry is where former Pentagon generals and procurement officers find work after "retirement".  As they say "thank you for your service" and here's your $500K a year board seat.  Quid Pro Quo I think is what its called. 

 

You know what else is up?  All the energy ETF's and funds, commodity stocks, and precious metals positions (and emerging market funds for later) I started to accumulate right after the inauguration in January 2021.  Because I concluded early on that Uncle Joe and his crew of misfits and morons would screw every up real good which would result in some higher prices, chaos, and lots of economic, social, and political disorder.  And I was right. 

 

Coming next by Summer should be things like food riots and social disorder in lots of countries around the world when food prices surge higher still and food scarcity hits.  21st century Democrats.. the party of chaos.  What a mess. 

 

 

I do see this coming as well 

[Doc]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

The President? Naw, he's the President. 

 

Trump, not so much 

 

Never will be again  

 

The only thing we know for certain is Joey will never be President again.  Worst President ever and his brain is mush already, never mind in 2 more years.

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, Doc said:

 

The only thing we know for certain is Joey will never be President again.  Worst President ever and his brain is mush already, never mind in 2 more years.

You think Putin will be a victim of this war? 

[Doc]

Just now, Tiberius said:

You think Putin will be a victim of this war? 

 

Yes.