Democracy’s Fiery Ordeal: The War in Ukraine 🇺🇦

[Doc]

Looks like NATO will be sending fighter jets.

[Tiberius]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

Looks like NATO will be sending fighter jets.

Green light has been given. 

 

 

[BillStime]

 

[ALF]

45 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Green light has been given. 

 

 

 

Yes Putin is completely off the rails , now or never

 

I was ok to give up the 2 provinces of Russian speakers and maybe Crimea  but Putin has gone way too far and has to be stopped at all cost and given nothing.

Edited March 6, 2022 by ALF

[Tiberius]

1 hour ago, BillStime said:

 

If the media had not sounded the alarm Trump would of sat on the missiles, and if he would won the election, he never would of sent them. If he got the corrupt investigation he wanted, it would of been used to try and sour the relationship between Democrats and Ukrainian democracy. 

[Motorin']

4 hours ago, SCBills said:

US backed the overthrow of a pro-Russia Ukrainian President.  
 

US funnels weapons into the country that are used against Russian separatists. 
 

US backed neo-nazi militia groups that were then integrated into the National Guard to fight Russian Separatists in the South & East of Ukraine. 
 

US leaders such as Adam Schiff, Lindsey Graham, John McCain and Amy Klobuchar all made comments about using Ukraine to fight Russia “over there” so we don’t have to fight them “over here”.  
 

Putin is evil for this full scale invasion, but why would he want to border a country who aligns with the Western aim is to weaken his country?

 

It was always going to end up like this if we kept pushing Ukraine down this NATO rabbit hole, of which, we never had any intention of honoring - or defending.  
 

Putin waited until he thought the US leadership & NATO alliance was weakest and made his move.   Clearly NATO has stepped up, but it’s too little/too late & Ukraine’s best hope is an Afghanistan-style insurgency for a decade, while their population is decimated, unless NATO goes to war with Russia.  

 

 

 

Trying to look at this situation objectively is sad and sickening. What we'll never know is if the invasion would have still occured had Ukraine vowed military neutrality and only economic partnership with the EU. But what we do know is that American politicians from both parties pushed NATO expansion, and Ukraine overwhelmingly voted for it. 

 

 

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

24 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

If the media had not sounded the alarm Trump would of sat on the missiles, and if he would won the election, he never would of sent them. If he got the corrupt investigation he wanted, it would of been used to try and sour the relationship between Democrats and Ukrainian democracy. 

If, if, & if.  If I could run the 100M sprint three seconds faster I'd be the Olympic champion. 

Edited March 6, 2022 by All_Pro_Bills

[Doc]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

If the media had not sounded the alarm Trump would of sat on the missiles, and if he would won the election, he never would of sent them. If he got the corrupt investigation he wanted, it would of been used to try and sour the relationship between Democrats and Ukrainian democracy. 

 

Since you're playing the "If" game (and poorly, I might add): "If Trump had been re-elected, Russia wouldn't have invaded Ukraine, making all the rest moot."

 

But Joey and his idiot-boy son should definitely have been investigated for their corruption.

Edited March 7, 2022 by Doc

[Tiberius]

1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

If, if, & if.  If I could run the 100M sprint three seconds faster I'd be the Olympic champion. 

No ifs that he withheld the missiles. 

 

He did 

 

Then he got caught 

 

Don’t support fascism 

[Big Blitz]

2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

If the media had not sounded the alarm Trump would of sat on the missiles, and if he would won the election, he never would of sent them. If he got the corrupt investigation he wanted, it would of been used to try and sour the relationship between Democrats and Ukrainian democracy. 

 

 

[SCBills]

So, rather than just drill here, this dumpster fire President is going to simp around the world for oil from the Saudis, Iran and Venezuela… 

 

 

[sherpa]

I'm not sure this three party agreement to get Mig 29's to Ukraine is going to be effective.

 

Where are they going to base them?

I cannot imagine that Ukrainian air bases are still operational, or would be within the time frame required.

I'm unsure of the differences between Polish Mig variants and those provided to the Ukraine Air Force.

Sometimes the differences are minor, sometimes they're not.

 

Anyway, not sure this is going to matter.

Edited March 7, 2022 by sherpa

[SCBills]

Russia just out here tagging in Belarussians and Syrians now..

 

 

[John Adams]

Interesting thread on all the things the Pentagon can’t (or won’t to be clear) verify that have been online and in certain media. 

 

 

 

8 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Russia just out here tagging in Belarussians and Syrians now..

 

 

 

I’m sure Syria is just dying to fight for Russia. 

[Big Blitz]

1 hour ago, SCBills said:

So, rather than just drill here, this dumpster fire President is going to simp around the world for oil from the Saudis, Iran and Venezuela… 

 

 

 

 

And to think, the only reason President CDC dropped....sorry.....paused the Covid protocols was because mid term polling for Democrats is atrocious 

 

 

 

 

 

Your United States government led by the Democrat party and the deep state ladies and gentlemen give them all big round of applause we can't hear you in the back really clap it up for these folks....give them a big hand!!

[sodbuster]

1 hour ago, SCBills said:

So, rather than just drill here, this dumpster fire President is going to simp around the world for oil from the Saudis, Iran and Venezuela… 

 

 

And in exchange, we'll probably send them more weapons to blow up Yemeni children.

 

But hey, at least they aren't European kids. Right, CNN? 

[Big Blitz]

Convincing people that the fight in Ukraine is about freedom and democracy is really rather sickening - especially after our white leftist racist elitists said it wasn't possible in countries that are majority brown.  Sick racists.   

 

Sorry you don't sacrifice Crimea and allow Russia to escalate like this in a matter of less then a year, continue to cut and limit our own oil and gas production because you propped up Greta Thornburg like you did Zelensky in Ukraine, and suddenly claim the world must act.    

 

Nope.  You are all failures.  Canceling Putin and actual Russians all over the world is pathetic and itself anti-freedom. 

 

You're a weak group of losers who lost all trust and credibility during covid and the entire 4 years Trump was president who faced more scrutiny and attacks based on lies in a day by American mass media then we have given China in 2 years since Covid - and their essential take over of Hong Kong. 

 

And any Republican going along with this madness (they are because they are still neo cons or they're terrified of being canceled) can go pound sand.  

Edited March 7, 2022 by Big Blitz

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

5 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Green light has been given. 

 

 

Green light? What I’d seen is we okd them to send their Soviet era fighters to Ukraine which we’d replace with soviet era American fighter planes

[SCBills]

So weird the media keeps posting pictures of Ukrainian military with Nazi symbolism. 

 

Again, this has nothing to do with whether this invasion was warranted due to Putin’s “de-nazification” claims.   Clearly a majority of Ukraine is not Nazi, but it’s just comical that western media can’t address this.  
 

(Sonnengrad patch on uniform - addressed in comments)
 

 

[TSOL]

Has Putin gone mad? Is it time to worry about worse case scenario?