Chef Jim Posted March 5, 2022 Posted March 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, Doc said: Why should ex-felons be allowed to vote? Because they served their time. Why shouldn’t they? I’ve never understood this. 1 1
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 5, 2022 Posted March 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Chef Jim said: Because they served their time. Why shouldn’t they? I’ve never understood this. I’d take a real vote from a former felon over a vote from a harvested ballot any day
BillStime Posted March 5, 2022 Posted March 5, 2022 Just now, SCBills said: Clemency review to forgive court ordered fines of ex-felons in Florida. Nikki Fried, amongst others, were involved with state GOP on this. Tell us more about SB 7066.
SoCal Deek Posted March 5, 2022 Posted March 5, 2022 This is really today’s debate? When we get to the point where the voting rights of ex-felons is the LAST problem remaining to be fixed…let me know. 😉 2 1
Chef Jim Posted March 5, 2022 Posted March 5, 2022 14 minutes ago, BillStime said: Tell us more about SB 7066. It allows felons to vote. What’s your issue with it?
BillStime Posted March 5, 2022 Posted March 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Chef Jim said: It allows felons to vote. What’s your issue with it? Wrong.
Chef Jim Posted March 5, 2022 Posted March 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, BillStime said: Wrong. Set me straight
BillStime Posted March 5, 2022 Posted March 5, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chef Jim said: Set me straight Amendment 4 (approved by Florida voters) restored the right to vote for ex felons with the exception of murder or sexual offences in 2018. In 2019, DeSantis signed Republican sponsored Senate bill 7066, which requires ex-felons to pay off all outstanding fines, fees, and restitutions before regaining their right to vote. @SCBills - Nikki had nothing to do with the later. SB7066 is the definition of Jim Crow - what a hill to die on bro! Edited March 5, 2022 by BillStime
Chef Jim Posted March 5, 2022 Posted March 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, BillStime said: Amendment 4 (approved by Florida voters) restored the right to vote for ex felons with the exception murder or sexual offences in 2018. In 2019, DeSantis signed Republican sponsored Senate bill 7066, which requires ex-felons to pay off all outstanding fines, fees, and restitutions before regaining their right to vote. @SCBills - Nikki had nothing to do with the later. SB7066 is the definition of Jim Crow - what a hill to die on bro! As a convicted felon you relinquish you ability to participate in a law abiding society which includes your ability to vote. Once you have fully repaid your debt to society you will be allowed to participate in society. Yeah I know….THE HOOROR!!
Doc Posted March 5, 2022 Posted March 5, 2022 43 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Because they served their time. Why shouldn’t they? I’ve never understood this. Should they get back all the other civil rights they lose as well?
Big Blitz Posted March 5, 2022 Posted March 5, 2022 1 hour ago, SCBills said: Who had the country of Ukraine trying to cancel Coca-Cola on their 2022 war bingo card? I know if my country were under seige and in imminent danger of being taken over, I'm definitely checking to make sure a soda company is giving a proper "counterattack." What a total sham this is.
Chef Jim Posted March 5, 2022 Posted March 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Doc said: Should they get back all the other civil rights they lose as well? Absolutely! It’s called repaying your debt to society. 1
BillStime Posted March 5, 2022 Posted March 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: As a convicted felon you relinquish you ability to participate in a law abiding society which includes your ability to vote. Once you have fully repaid your debt to society you will be allowed to participate in society. Yeah I know….THE HOOROR!! Nice job redefining what it means to repay your debt to society... That's not what Floridians passed when 65% of them voted in favor of Amendment 4. Of course the Republicans would pass SB7066 because there is no way we can have those who PAID THEIR DEBT TO SOCIETY possibly vote against the GQP. smfh
Doc Posted March 5, 2022 Posted March 5, 2022 14 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Absolutely! It’s called repaying your debt to society. We'll agree to disagree then.
Warcodered Posted March 5, 2022 Posted March 5, 2022 8 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Putin is just the latest example of the eventuality of your lefty socialist utopia, just like every brutal dictator in all of history. Every single one. You keep missing this very obvious and redundant history lesson. He literally came to power after they stopped being Communist, and every brutal dictator in history was socialist...really? I mean if you're going to complain about socialism or even social programs at least reach for the level of basic common sense.
Chef Jim Posted March 5, 2022 Posted March 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, Doc said: We'll agree to disagree then. Why do you think they should not? 13 minutes ago, BillStime said: Nice job redefining what it means to repay your debt to society... That's not what Floridians passed when 65% of them voted in favor of Amendment 4. Of course the Republicans would pass SB7066 because there is no way we can have those who PAID THEIR DEBT TO SOCIETY possibly vote against the GQP. smfh How are they redefining it?
BillStime Posted March 5, 2022 Posted March 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: How are they redefining it? You are - keep up.
Big Blitz Posted March 5, 2022 Posted March 5, 2022 "Spread Russian Propaganda" Libs are complete fascist thugs. Good luck to teachers trying teach about this now. Classes only going to be: Teacher: "Putin is evil we must stop him." Student: "Does Russia have a historical claim....as in the beginnings of modern day Russia have roots in Kiev? Can you explain this?" Teacher: "We're moving on to the next boring cookie cutter indoctrination lesson." 1
SCBills Posted March 5, 2022 Posted March 5, 2022 (edited) It’s absolutely insane. We’re reacting at home EXACTLY the same way we did after 9/11. -Western way is the only way -X people are bad -Suspend personal freedoms under the guise of imminent danger -American involvement in a country that has nothing to do with us is necessary -Wrap yourself in the flag to deflect any criticism Edited March 5, 2022 by SCBills
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 5, 2022 Posted March 5, 2022 12 minutes ago, Warcodered said: He literally came to power after they stopped being Communist, and every brutal dictator in history was socialist...really? I mean if you're going to complain about socialism or even social programs at least reach for the level of basic common sense. the fourth grade reading comprehension around here is tiresome.. ok… to break this down Eventuality - first look up that word and understand it’s meaning. In this context the intent was contingent occurrence. next, this is a slight bit more of a stretch, but understand how socialist utopia and communism are synonymous. now with this understanding please re read your first nine words and see how you literally exemplified my point. thx! 1
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