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  On 3/3/2022 at 6:55 PM, Big Blitz said:

Got em now!  The hold hands and sing Kumbaya moment we'll all have when this is over will be epic!

 

 

 

CCM Hockey to stop using Alex Ovechkin, other Russian NHL stars in global marketing campaigns

 

CCM Hockey, one of the largest producers of hockey equipment in the world, is planning to stop using Washington Capitals star Alex Ovechkin, as well as other Russian-born NHL players, in any global marketing campaigns, according to TSN's Rick Westhead. CCM chief executive Marrouane Nabih confirmed that the hockey equipment giant made the decision following Russia's invasion of Ukraine earlier in February.

 

"We are very sad to witness, like the rest of the world, what is happening in Ukraine," CCM chief executive Marrouane Nabih told TSN. "Although Mr. Ovechkin is not responsible for the Russian government's actions, we took the decision to not use him (or any Russian player) on any global CCM communication at this point."

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nhl/news/ccm-hockey-to-stop-using-alex-ovechkin-other-russian-nhl-stars-in-global-marketing-campaigns/

 

 

Wow!  OK cool thanks for clarifying that last part.  I thought OV might have been a spy or something.  

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Much better chance than under Trump. So yes, I do think Biden will show leadership. 

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Kay, here’s the dealio.  Tribalism is a fancy world for people being people, and there’s not much more to it than that.    I visited Florida last week (the state, not hip hop singer extraordina

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no matter how much you deflect Ukraine is being destroyed because Russia doesn’t respect America under Biden 

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Also a small but important humanitarian development. People have been discussing this for a few days. 

 

 

 

In a similar vein. 

 

 

 

These last two items indicate to me, however, that Putin is in this for the long haul now. 

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Also a small but important humanitarian development. People have been discussing this for a few days. 

 

 

 

In a similar vein. 

 

 

 

These last two items indicate to me, however, that Putin is in this for the long haul now. 

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While we disagree on a lot of domestic stuff you are linking to a lot of good info and seem to have a strong understanding of where it is likely going.

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That's my big problem with weak sauce NATO.  They are content on giving them defensive weapons only like anti-air, anti-tank weapons straight out of the Afghanistan 1980 playbook.  

 

I think the Poles and a couple other countries wanted to send them some fighter jets and NATO stepped in and stopped it because it'd be too "aggressive."  

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I'm not sure what NATO did, but that would make zero sense.

Might as well blow them up on the ramp.

  On 3/3/2022 at 7:47 PM, John Adams said:

One report and one source but I would call this developing and a big problem for the future of Russia if it bears out. 

 

 

 

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The entirety of Russian civilian aviation is gone, regardless of what they agree to return.

No spare parts, no  maintenance, or access to out of country airspace. 

 

Over 50% of Russian airlines airplanes are leased, and while they might not return them, they cannot operate them.

Among other industries, this one is dead.

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While we disagree on a lot of domestic stuff you are linking to a lot of good info and seem to have a strong understanding of where it is likely going.

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I have no idea where it’s going. 


Zero point zero Mr. Blutarsky 

 

Forecasting is a fool’s game though I sometimes make a guess. 

  On 3/3/2022 at 8:03 PM, sherpa said:

 

I'm not sure what NATO did, but that would make zero sense.

Might as well blow them up on the ramp.

 

The entirety of Russian civilian aviation is gone, regardless of what they agree to return.

No spare parts, no  maintenance, or access to out of country airspace. 

 

Over 50% of Russian airlines airplanes are leased, and while they might not return them, they cannot operate them.

Among other industries, this one is dead.

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The implications reach way beyond air. 

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  On 3/3/2022 at 7:26 PM, LDD said:

What's the debate?

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Is America/NATO doing enough? Should we do more?

 

Do any of Putin’s claims (Donbas, Crimea, Azov Battalion, NATO expansion, Western aggression) have a kernel of truth?  (Albeit - of course - none of that absolves Putin of full scale invasion/death/destruction)

 

Should Ukraine be/have been in NATO?

 

Are we being propagandized into a movie version of this war?

 

 

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The implications reach way beyond air. 

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Of course they do.

Russia is being economically isolated in a manner never seen, and the pain to its populace is going to be massive.

I'm simply responding to one element.

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These last two items indicate to me, however, that Putin is in this for the long haul now. 

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One report and one source but I would call this developing and a big problem for the future of Russia if it bears out. 

 

 

  On 3/3/2022 at 8:19 PM, John Adams said:


I have no idea where it’s going. 


Zero point zero Mr. Blutarsky 

 

Forecasting is a fool’s game though I sometimes make a guess. 

 

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So you are fool for stating what you did!

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  On 3/3/2022 at 7:53 PM, John Adams said:

Also a small but important humanitarian development. People have been discussing this for a few days. 

 

 

 

In a similar vein. 

 

 

 

These last two items indicate to me, however, that Putin is in this for the long haul now. 

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Of course he is.  The die has been cast.

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  On 3/3/2022 at 8:58 PM, Buffalo Timmy said:

One report and one source but I would call this developing and a big problem for the future of Russia if it bears out. 

 

 

So you are fool for stating what you did!

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I'd be a fool for believing it. 

 

There's a reason for the shitposter game. 

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Russian oil firm Lukoil calls for end to war in Ukraine. 

 

“Russia’s largest private oil company Lukoil on Thursday called for an end to the war in Ukraine. The company’s board expressed its concern over the ongoing ‘tragic events’ in Ukraine, according to a statement by Lukoil. The board said it stands for the immediate cessation of the war, adding it supports a solution through diplomatic means.”

 

 

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/economy/russian-oil-firm-lukoil-calls-for-end-to-war-in-ukraine/2523185#:~:text=Russia's largest private oil company Lukoil on Thursday,adding it supports a solution through diplomatic means.

 

 

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