TH3 Posted March 20 Posted March 20 On 3/16/2025 at 4:30 PM, All_Pro_Bills said: I'm not justifying anything. I'm pointing out the fallacy of the good vs evil argument many posters rely on when the reality of life is things are not so black and white. But a more recent example for our country would be the invasion of Iraq. Under false pretense. No WMD, no link to 9/11. Bush and his henchmen fabricated the justification and all the "patriots" on both sides of the isle fell in line and went along with the charade. The removal of Hussain was a strategic disaster for the Middle East. It removed Iran's natural enemy from the game board. And left us with today's mess. How is this so different from what Putin did? After all, many on the left considered Bush and Chaney as war criminals as s result of displacing and killing 100's of thousands of civilians. Until they lined up against Trump and turned into heroes. How is it different? - As stupid and misguided as it was - Bush did not do it to make it the 51st state. Maga pud
Doc Posted March 20 Posted March 20 28 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: So breathtaking in his stupidity, this Sean Davis. If this were true, then I supposed Russia would immediately end its invasion. Zelensky would be voted out or deposed as President. A new pro-Russia president would take over. Russia's entire casus belli would be negated. Everyone is happy. So maybe, just maybe, Russia started this war and refuses to end it with anything short of surrender? You think that there is any chance that, after all this, Russia just says “OK, you get all of your country back except for Crimeaand you just don’t get to get into NATO”? Come on man.
The Frankish Reich Posted March 20 Posted March 20 5 minutes ago, Doc said: You think that there is any chance that, after all this, Russia just says “OK, you get all of your country back except for Crimeaand you just don’t get to get into NATO”? Come on man. Of course not. I am pointing out that this Sean Davis guy is a moron for thinking that Zelensky is in favor of continued war. Which kind of agrees with what you just said.
Doc Posted March 20 Posted March 20 Just now, The Frankish Reich said: Of course not. I am pointing out that this Sean Davis guy is a moron for thinking that Zelensky is in favor of continued war. Which kind of agrees with what you just said. Putin is not giving back any land. So that means continued war. 1
Big Blitz Posted March 21 Posted March 21 Russia is not returning any territory. Whoever thinks this is delusional. Forever war - bc peace means Trump gets a Nobel Peace Prize and Zelenskyy will never be president again. So……Go Ukraine!
Coffeesforclosers Posted March 21 Posted March 21 18 hours ago, Doc said: Putin is not giving back any land. So that means continued war. If only we had a tough, skillful negotiator for a president who could leverage economic threats to soften Putin's position.
LDD Posted March 21 Posted March 21 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Coffeesforclosers said: If only we had a tough, skillful negotiator for a president who could leverage economic threats to soften Putin's position. ...and who cares about Jewish Ukranian kids as much as he does Israeli Jewish kids. Estimates as high as 30k stolen kids by the Russians. It's a disgusting mess. Edited March 21 by LDD
Doc Posted March 21 Posted March 21 18 minutes ago, Coffeesforclosers said: If only we had a tough, skillful negotiator for a president who could leverage economic threats to soften Putin's position. What economic threat could he threaten? And “he could do something” isn’t an answer. 1 minute ago, LDD said: ...and who cared about Jewish Ukranian kids as much as he does Israeli Jewish kids. Estimates as high as 30k stolen kids by the Russians. It's a disgusting mess. Stealing kids is reprehensible no matter who does it.
Coffeesforclosers Posted March 21 Posted March 21 Post- Kursk withdrawal analysis. In a nutshell, the Kursk operation was a wash at best. The frontline is stabilizing but not stabilized fully. Russia is punching far below its weight in terms of mobilized forces vs battlefield gains. Ukraine is executing substantial reforms in training, mobilization and organization that are overdue. A bunch of bad Ukrainian commanders have been fired and replaced and it shows. There's really no military reason for either side the want a peace plan yet. Russia is still generating plenty of replacements, and some forward movement. Ukraine's figured out how to counter new Russian tactics, Russia's artillery advantage has been nullified, and Ukraine knows how to defend large areas with firepower and drones, which offsets its lower numbers.
B-Man Posted March 21 Posted March 21 2 hours ago, Coffeesforclosers said: There's really no military reason for either side the want a peace plan yet. Russia is still generating plenty of replacements, and some forward movement. Ukraine's figured out how to counter new Russian tactics, Russia's artillery advantage has been nullified, and Ukraine knows how to defend large areas with firepower and drones, which offsets its lower numbers. This is all true. One would hope that the humanitarian reason, saving lives, will continue to grow.
Coffeesforclosers Posted March 22 Posted March 22 17 hours ago, B-Man said: This is all true. One would hope that the humanitarian reason, saving lives, will continue to grow. Yeah. What makes you think that either side is ready to consider humanitarian reasons? Popular support for the war is still high in both camps. There's no domestic pressure for peace based on wartime hardship. When the Ukrainians run short of men, they stitch the front back together with drones and artillery until they get more. When the Russians run short of men, they form prisoners into penal units, or offer their citizens the equivalent of 5-7 years wages to sign up for the SMO...
JDHillFan Posted March 22 Posted March 22 15 minutes ago, Coffeesforclosers said: Yeah. What makes you think that either side is ready to consider humanitarian reasons? Popular support for the war is still high in both camps. There's no domestic pressure for peace based on wartime hardship. When the Ukrainians run short of men, they stitch the front back together with drones and artillery until they get more. When the Russians run short of men, they form prisoners into penal units, or offer their citizens the equivalent of 5-7 years wages to sign up for the SMO... I’m curious about your background. Have you been a military analyst or foreign policy analyst along the way, or are you just an internet enthusiast as it relates to this war?
Coffeesforclosers Posted March 22 Posted March 22 12 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: I’m curious about your background. Have you been a military analyst or foreign policy analyst along the way, or are you just an internet enthusiast as it relates to this war? You're a username on the internet. I guess you'll have to stay curious, no offense intended. 1
JDHillFan Posted March 22 Posted March 22 2 minutes ago, Coffeesforclosers said: You're a username on the internet. I guess you'll have to stay curious, no offense intended. Internet enthusiast was all you had to say.
Homelander Posted Sunday at 04:34 AM Posted Sunday at 04:34 AM Anything to normalize what Putin is doing to Ukraine
Coffeesforclosers Posted Wednesday at 04:31 PM Posted Wednesday at 04:31 PM (edited) We've got a developing story. Four American soldiers have been found dead in a training area in Lithuania. Edited Wednesday at 04:31 PM by Coffeesforclosers 1
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted Wednesday at 04:42 PM Author Posted Wednesday at 04:42 PM Lithuania shares a 421-mile border with Belarus, led by authoritarian Alexander Lukashenko, dubbed "Europe’s last dictator." Lukashenko has been a key ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, allowing him to use Belarus as a staging area for his invasion of Ukraine in 2022.
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted Wednesday at 06:38 PM Author Posted Wednesday at 06:38 PM 1 hour ago, B-Man said: Putin
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