JimmyNoodles Posted March 1 Posted March 1 This past week the world changed for everyone on the planet. The USA aligned itself with Russia, Iran, and North Korea and turned its back on Europe and Ukraine. For those supporting Trump, are you ok with that? Are you ok that the USA now is on the side of authoritarian regimes? There's lots of talk about side issues, things that don't reflect what's happening now. The US has made plenty of mistakes in foreign policy over the years, maybe too many to count, by both Democrats and Republicans. But that is not the point. The point is Ukraine is fighting for their freedom. Does anyone deny this? Does anyone deny that Putin was the aggressor? Apparently the US doesn't care about that anymore. We have no ideals, no beliefs. The current regime only believes in enriching themsleves. The USA is on our own now. Europe can't trust us anymore. If they weren't sure before, the world now knows fully that we are feckless. Russia owns us. The "deal" proposed by our courageous president "Bone Spurs" was no deal at all. Ukraine signs over rights to minerals and we provide what? What? Nothing is the correct answer. We provide nothing. That's quite the peace deal. Zelensky is no fool. He called out the BS spewed by our moron in chief and his lap dog. The entire exercise was an excuse to turn on Ukraine and that is what's happening. Now the republicans are calling for Zelenzky to step down. Who wants that? Putin wants it. Zelensky did the right thing in calling out the BS. The traitor in the white house has no intention of upholding any deal and in this case, there was nothing to uphold on our end anyway. Trump will fully back Putin at some point. Zelensky will be blamed for not wearing a suit, for not observing the sanctity of the oval office, for not saying thank you enough LOL!!!!!! Whathave we become as a country to have these things as talking points? Ukraine will fight. They won't surrender. We have picked our side and it's not freedom. I ask again, are you ok with that? Yes or no will do. Just remember that if the anser is yes, we're next. 2
dgrochester55 Posted March 1 Posted March 1 (edited) 13 minutes ago, JimmyNoodles said: This past week the world changed for everyone on the planet. The USA aligned itself with Russia, Iran, and North Korea and turned its back on Europe and Ukraine. For those supporting Trump, are you ok with that? Are you ok that the USA now is on the side of authoritarian regimes? There's lots of talk about side issues, things that don't reflect what's happening now. The US has made plenty of mistakes in foreign policy over the years, maybe too many to count, by both Democrats and Republicans. But that is not the point. The point is Ukraine is fighting for their freedom. Does anyone deny this? Does anyone deny that Putin was the aggressor? Apparently the US doesn't care about that anymore. We have no ideals, no beliefs. The current regime only believes in enriching themsleves. The USA is on our own now. Europe can't trust us anymore. If they weren't sure before, the world now knows fully that we are feckless. Russia owns us. The "deal" proposed by our courageous president "Bone Spurs" was no deal at all. Ukraine signs over rights to minerals and we provide what? What? Nothing is the correct answer. We provide nothing. That's quite the peace deal. Zelensky is no fool. He called out the BS spewed by our moron in chief and his lap dog. The entire exercise was an excuse to turn on Ukraine and that is what's happening. Now the republicans are calling for Zelenzky to step down. Who wants that? Putin wants it. Zelensky did the right thing in calling out the BS. The traitor in the white house has no intention of upholding any deal and in this case, there was nothing to uphold on our end anyway. Trump will fully back Putin at some point. Zelensky will be blamed for not wearing a suit, for not observing the sanctity of the oval office, for not saying thank you enough LOL!!!!!! Whathave we become as a country to have these things as talking points? Ukraine will fight. They won't surrender. We have picked our side and it's not freedom. I ask again, are you ok with that? Yes or no will do. Just remember that if the anser is yes, we're next. Thanks for the CNN recap. Now what are your thoughts on it? Edit: I personally think that all three were in the wrong for different reasons, but your "thoughts" look like someone asked chat GPT to summarize yesterday events in the role of a person which a severe case of TDS. Edited March 1 by dgrochester55 1
B-Man Posted March 1 Posted March 1 3 minutes ago, JimmyNoodles said: This past week the world changed for everyone on the planet. The USA aligned itself with Russia, Iran, and North Korea and turned its back on Europe and Ukraine. There is no need to read beyond this blatantly false claim. No need to answer "yes or no" to to your screed. Try , just try, reading some other reports about what occurred, and not the propaganda that you have been swallowing so willingly. Meanwhile: "Body-language and behavioral expert Darren Stanton said he thought Zelensky appeared 'quite angry from the outset' and got 'caught up in his own ego.'" "At one point while Vance is talking, Zelensky moves from leaning forward to leaning back with his arms crossed, showing a 'dramatic change in inner emotion' that Stanton believed was the moment Zelensky realized 'he was going to leave.' 'He felt he wasn’t getting his points across or wasn’t allowed to,' Stanton said, adding that he also thought Trump was greatly frustrated by Zelensky, despite remaining stone-faced." From "Body-language experts break down the dramatic Trump-Zelensky meeting (WaPo). https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/03/01/zelensky-trump-video-body-language/ 1
Homelander Posted March 1 Posted March 1 1 hour ago, sherpa said: What I defend are claims that are ignorant, misinformed or simply bull####, and about three of you do this all the time Everyone makes claims the goal here is to back them. You have not. 1 hour ago, sherpa said: You have stated that the assassination of Soleimani led to things that would not otherwise have happened. Never do you suggest you have any idea why it was done, what he was about or what he was planning. That is deceitful and ignorant. I never claimed those events wouldn’t have occurred without Soleimani’s death. My point was simply that the so-called “no war” president was undeniably aggressive. 1 hour ago, sherpa said: You seem to operate at a 30% level, with politics filling the remainder. It is ignorant and tiresome. 30% effort, and you're already spiraling. Imagine the chaos if I actually tried.
Big Blitz Posted March 1 Posted March 1 (edited) 13 minutes ago, JimmyNoodles said: This past week the world changed for everyone on the planet. The USA aligned itself with Russia, Iran, and North Korea and turned its back on Europe and Ukraine. For those supporting Trump, are you ok with that? Are you ok that the USA now is on the side of authoritarian regimes? We sending troops to help Russia? Is Europe’s lack of troop presence to this existential “threat” not demonstrating to you the farce this is? By your logic, are they not siding with authoritarian regimes by not attacking Russia? So much at stake it should be simple then, right? Please sell that the people. Edited March 1 by Big Blitz
Roundybout Posted March 1 Posted March 1 Word on the street is Haltbakk Bunkers out of Norway has declared it will refuse to refuel American warships at Norwegian ports. We can probably expect more of this as Trump has made it very clear he wishes to align himself with Russia. I wouldn’t be surprised if U.S. troops are evicted from European bases pretty soon. 1
JimmyNoodles Posted March 1 Posted March 1 I asked a simple question. Do you back Ukraine or not? I got two non answers. I live in a republican state. My senator was HUGE Ukraine supporter. Let's see if if he still supports them on Monday. Do you back Ukraine or not?
Big Blitz Posted March 1 Posted March 1 Just now, JimmyNoodles said: I asked a simple question. Do you back Ukraine or not? I got two non answers. I live in a republican state. My senator was HUGE Ukraine supporter. Let's see if if he still supports them on Monday. Do you back Ukraine or not? When was neutral not an option? 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: I wouldn’t be surprised if U.S. troops are evicted from European bases pretty soon. Good. Peace out. Form a coalition with the AFD.
dgrochester55 Posted March 1 Posted March 1 (edited) 6 minutes ago, JimmyNoodles said: I asked a s̶i̶m̶p̶l̶e̶ ̶q̶u̶e̶s̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ oversimplified, agenda based, leading question. Fixed it for you. Now ChatGPT, write a script calling the final drive of a Bills and Dolphins game playing the role of a TDS person if Musk bought the Dolphins. Edited March 1 by dgrochester55
JimmyNoodles Posted March 1 Posted March 1 Some questions are simple. Not one answer yet. Where's the conviction? 2
Roundybout Posted March 1 Posted March 1 5 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: When was neutral not an option? Good. Peace out. Form a coalition with the AFD. Why would we form a coalition with neo-fascists?
dgrochester55 Posted March 1 Posted March 1 (edited) 6 minutes ago, JimmyNoodles said: Some questions are simple. Not one answer yet. Where's the conviction? Do you support the deaths of hundreds of troops a day? Yes or no. No waffling, no excuses. Answer that because it is a direct yes and no question that has no other possible explanation or context and everything is black and white. See how that works from the other side? Now grow up and talk like an adult if you want to be taken seriously. Edited March 1 by dgrochester55 1
JimmyNoodles Posted March 1 Posted March 1 2 minutes ago, dgrochester55 said: Do you support the deaths of hundreds of troops a day? Yes or no. Answer that because it is a direct yes and no question that you have no other explanation and everything is black and white. See how that works from the other side. Sending troops is a pure hypothetical. That goes to the degree of support. The question is Do you support Ukraine? See how that still works as a question? 1
dgrochester55 Posted March 1 Posted March 1 (edited) 7 minutes ago, JimmyNoodles said: Sending troops is a pure hypothetical. That goes to the degree of support. The question is Do you support Ukraine? See how that still works as a question? I thought that only yes and no answers were allowed in this game. Why don't you want to answer? You can dish it out but you cannot take it. Also I never mentioned sending our troops, I asked if you support the deaths of hundreds of troops. In my question, I actually I meant Ukrainian ones, but you defaulted to US ones as if the Ukrainian ones didn't count. How ethnocentric of you. I thought that you supported Ukraine. Ask me your question in a neutral open-ended way instead of a leading agenda based one and I will acknowledge it. Until then, grow up. Edited March 1 by dgrochester55
JDHillFan Posted March 1 Posted March 1 32 minutes ago, JimmyNoodles said: This past week the world changed for everyone on the planet. The USA aligned itself with Russia, Iran, and North Korea and turned its back on Europe and Ukraine. For those supporting Trump, are you ok with that? Are you ok that the USA now is on the side of authoritarian regimes? There's lots of talk about side issues, things that don't reflect what's happening now. The US has made plenty of mistakes in foreign policy over the years, maybe too many to count, by both Democrats and Republicans. But that is not the point. The point is Ukraine is fighting for their freedom. Does anyone deny this? Does anyone deny that Putin was the aggressor? Apparently the US doesn't care about that anymore. We have no ideals, no beliefs. The current regime only believes in enriching themsleves. The USA is on our own now. Europe can't trust us anymore. If they weren't sure before, the world now knows fully that we are feckless. Russia owns us. The "deal" proposed by our courageous president "Bone Spurs" was no deal at all. Ukraine signs over rights to minerals and we provide what? What? Nothing is the correct answer. We provide nothing. That's quite the peace deal. Zelensky is no fool. He called out the BS spewed by our moron in chief and his lap dog. The entire exercise was an excuse to turn on Ukraine and that is what's happening. Now the republicans are calling for Zelenzky to step down. Who wants that? Putin wants it. Zelensky did the right thing in calling out the BS. The traitor in the white house has no intention of upholding any deal and in this case, there was nothing to uphold on our end anyway. Trump will fully back Putin at some point. Zelensky will be blamed for not wearing a suit, for not observing the sanctity of the oval office, for not saying thank you enough LOL!!!!!! Whathave we become as a country to have these things as talking points? Ukraine will fight. They won't surrender. We have picked our side and it's not freedom. I ask again, are you ok with that? Yes or no will do. Just remember that if the anser is yes, we're next. I’m just glad a sane, sober, rational lefty has finally arrived. Good god. 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻🤦🏻♀️
JimmyNoodles Posted March 1 Posted March 1 3 minutes ago, dgrochester55 said: I thought that only yes and no answer were allowed in this game. Why dont you want to answer? You can dish it out but you cannot take it. Also I never mentioned sending troops, I asked if you support the deaths of hundreds of troops. In my question, I actually I meant Ukrainian ones, but you defaulted to US ones as if the Ukrainain one didnt count. How ethnocentric of you. I thought that you supported Ukraine. Ask the question in a neutral open-ended way instead of a leading agenda based one and I will acknowledge it. Until then, grow up. People telling other to grow up, lol. Here's the question. I'll amend it since apparently sending troops seems to be the dividng line. Do you suport Ukraine, short of providing troops? Do you support monetary and weapoins backing? 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 1 Posted March 1 It seems one can’t support Ukraine without supporting the deaths onf hundreds of Ukrainian soldiers a day. I don’t think that’s true. For instance, a truce with 3 rd party security guarantees is an option.
JimmyNoodles Posted March 1 Posted March 1 7 minutes ago, dgrochester55 said: I thought that only yes and no answers were allowed in this game. Why don't you want to answer? You can dish it out but you cannot take it. Also I never mentioned sending our troops, I asked if you support the deaths of hundreds of troops. In my question, I actually I meant Ukrainian ones, but you defaulted to US ones as if the Ukrainian ones didn't count. How ethnocentric of you. I thought that you supported Ukraine. Ask me your question in a neutral open-ended way instead of a leading agenda based one and I will acknowledge it. Until then, grow up. Ukraine is in the war. They have no intention of surrender. Of course I care about their losses and believe it or not Russian losses too. Russia can stop the war right now. Right this minute. They just have to stop. You point makes no sense. 2
LDD Posted March 1 Posted March 1 19 minutes ago, JimmyNoodles said: Some questions are simple. Not one answer yet. Where's the conviction? You're arguing with Russian apologists at best and BOTS and Russian propagandists at the worst. Just know that. 1 1 1
dgrochester55 Posted March 1 Posted March 1 (edited) 8 minutes ago, JimmyNoodles said: People telling other to grow up, lol. Here's the question. I'll amend it since apparently sending troops seems to be the dividng line. Do you suport Ukraine, short of providing troops? Do you support monetary and weapoins backing? I support the Ukraine over Russia because Putin was the aggressor. I support working towards ending the war and keeping the Ukraine a sovereign nation which is what yesterday was working towards. I think that all three acted poorly which I have mentioned in other posts and that they should find a way to get back to talks again. Zelensky has valid concerns about Russia holding up their end of the bargain and I think that Trump is underestimating Putin's track record of doing this. Other than that I agree with the general direction of the plan and think that it was wrong for Zelensky to try to change the conditions at the last second when the public meeting was assumed to be a formality before the signing. That method is poor form and etiquette no matter what a negotiation is for in the business or political world. Three years ago, some people thought that Russia could take over the Ukraine within a month and Europe within a year. Three years later, they are at a stalemate with an extremely depleted army, that is not a victory from their end. Edited March 1 by dgrochester55 1
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