Orlando Buffalo Posted March 1 Posted March 1 1 hour ago, 4th&long said: Who doesn't understand thisTrump better start working on Russia. Ukraine surrendering to Russia, trump pulling down his pants for this is not going to work. What part of Ukrainians would rather die than become part of Russia don't you understand? I think you are saying that the US should send troops to the Ukraine and defend them as if it is the US?
sherpa Posted March 1 Posted March 1 52 minutes ago, Homelander said: Or the Soleimani strike that brought Iranian missiles and left US troops with brain injuries Trump called headaches. I often wonder why people don't acknowledge the full story. Not doing so is a deceitful posture. Do you know what Soleimani was up to or planning, because that was the sole reason he was targeted? To suggest that Iran hasn't been at war with Israel, the US and the west for that matter since 1979 is simply not accurate. Thank God Soleimani was killed. Do you know the "out" provisions that were in the Trump Afghan withdraw plan? Items which subsequent Taliban actions would have triggered.
Pokebball Posted March 1 Posted March 1 55 minutes ago, 4th&long said: No doubt he should not have joined in that ***** show with Trump and Vance. Big mistake. But that doesn't mean he is going to surrender to Putin. You guys love that commie., good for you. https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-44824858 This is how your orange Jesus is viewed around the world. I understand that Zelensky could have signed the deal days before, but he insisted in coming to the Whitehouse. It also appears that he met with others here in the US before hand (Susan Rice and others). Zelensky has to own what he caused and did.
Big Blitz Posted March 1 Posted March 1 Unbelievable. Whether your hands are dirty or not, welcome to the revolution Lindsay. It’s this last quote of his that’s telling - “Europe” is LOST To the hand-wringing Europeans who felt offended by President Trump rejecting being lectured by President Zelensky: Be my guest to defend Ukraine from Putin. It is long past time for the Europeans to show they are capable of defending their own continent. They’ve allowed their militaries to be hollowed out and when Europe speaks, no bad guy listens. I say this with great sadness: The last group of people that I would count on to defend freedom are the Europeans.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 1 Posted March 1 6 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Unbelievable. Whether your hands are dirty or not, welcome to the revolution Lindsay. It’s this last quote of his that’s telling - “Europe” is LOST To the hand-wringing Europeans who felt offended by President Trump rejecting being lectured by President Zelensky: Be my guest to defend Ukraine from Putin. It is long past time for the Europeans to show they are capable of defending their own continent. They’ve allowed their militaries to be hollowed out and when Europe speaks, no bad guy listens. I say this with great sadness: The last group of people that I would count on to defend freedom are the Europeans. No US troops have been involved in Ukraine so pretending that we have done more than Europe will militarily is ridiculous.
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted March 1 Posted March 1 2 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: No US troops have been involved in Ukraine so pretending that we have done more than Europe will militarily is ridiculous. Once again, you missed the point completely. 2
Homelander Posted March 1 Posted March 1 31 minutes ago, sherpa said: I often wonder why people don't acknowledge the full story. Not doing so is a deceitful posture. Do you know what Soleimani was up to or planning, because that was the sole reason he was targeted? To suggest that Iran hasn't been at war with Israel, the US and the west for that matter since 1979 is simply not accurate. Thank God Soleimani was killed. Do you know the "out" provisions that were in the Trump Afghan withdraw plan? Items which subsequent Taliban actions would have triggered. It’s downright laughable when MAGA demands others tell the “full story.” Soleimani did organize attacks on Americans and allies, but his killing had consequences: it increased tensions, led to retaliatory attacks, and resulted in US troops suffering brain injuries. Hell, Iran's Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei is still calling for Trump's assassination. As for Trump's Afghan withdrawal plan, why negotiate with the Taliban while excluding the recognized Afghan government? Sounds familiar, right Sherpa? I can admit that the withdrawal was far from perfect, but MAGA purposely fails to acknowledge what Biden inherited; a withdrawal plan already in motion, with conditions that were shaky at best. The lack of enforcement mechanisms in the Doha Agreement and the exclusion of the Afghan government set the stage for chaos. It's a mess that started long before his watch and exactly what Trump wanted. Once again, MAGA demanding others acknowledge the full story is laughable. 1
Homelander Posted March 1 Posted March 1 h/t @MatthewNichol5: Ultra MAGA patriot a MAGADONIAN. Love MAGADONIAN warriors like Donald Trump and Kari Lake. I follow back all patriots. That’s their source and look at these fools doing their part:
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 1 Posted March 1 It later came out that Rice and Tony Blinken, Victoria Nuland, and Alexander Vindman may have been personally advising Zelensky to do this meeting in the way he did -- that they recommended him to be hostile yes, and trump may have become a rainbow farting, unicorn of a humanitarian. this is meaningless gossip. it's what pretend journalists and propagandists do...
sherpa Posted March 1 Posted March 1 42 minutes ago, Homelander said: It’s downright laughable when MAGA demands others tell the “full story.” Soleimani did organize attacks on Americans and allies, but his killing had consequences: it increased tensions, led to retaliatory attacks, and resulted in US troops suffering brain injuries. Hell, Iran's Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei is still calling for Trump's assassination. As for Trump's Afghan withdrawal plan, why negotiate with the Taliban while excluding the recognized Afghan government? This is getting less and less tolerable. First, and for the eight millionth time, I am not a Trump supporter, and never have been. I get really tired of pointing that out to wackos who can't post a single thing without brining up that term. Knowing the history of things and suggesting some things were smart to do is not an endorsement of the individual who was advised, acted on that advice, and did them. You are clearly uniformed about what this man was up to and planning, which was the justification for his demise. Further, to even suggest that anything Iran does is the result of a US action, resulting in the deaths and injuries of Americans is gross ignorance of 45 years of history. Regarding the Afghan withdrawal, Trump promised it, negotiated it and it was underway. BUT, and you and yours never mention this crucial point, there were tripwires that would have stopped it. Those tripwires were crossed, and Biden proceeded with the most disgraceful escape I have ever been ashamed to watch, against advice. 1 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 1 Posted March 1 2 minutes ago, sherpa said: This is getting less and less tolerable. First, and for the eight millionth time, I am not a Trump supporter, and never have been. I get really tired of pointing that out to wackos who can't post a single thing without brining up that term. except that you rarely disagree with his statements and policies. even the highly controversial ones. 1
Homelander Posted March 1 Posted March 1 4 minutes ago, sherpa said: This is getting less and less tolerable. First, and for the eight millionth time, I am not a Trump supporter, and never have been. I get really tired of pointing that out to wackos who can't post a single thing without brining up that term. Knowing the history of things and suggesting some things were smart to do is not an endorsement of the individual who was advised, acted on that advice, and did them. You are clearly uniformed about what this man was up to and planning, which was the justification for his demise. Further, to even suggest that anything Iran does is the result of a US action, resulting in the deaths and injuries of Americans is gross ignorance of 45 years of history. Regarding the Afghan withdrawal, Trump promised it, negotiated it and it was underway. BUT, and you and yours never mention this crucial point, there were tripwires that would have stopped it. Those tripwires were crossed, and Biden proceeded with the most disgraceful escape I have ever been ashamed to watch, against advice. Not a Trump supporter yet twists himself into a knot defending his every move. Classic. 1
Wacka Posted March 1 Posted March 1 Zelensky was expecting to meet with a President offering him a pudding cup and a cackling drunk VP. He called the VP a B word in Ukranian under his breath. This admin is the FAFO admin.
sherpa Posted March 1 Posted March 1 13 minutes ago, Homelander said: Not a Trump supporter yet twists himself into a knot defending his every move. Classic. You continue to disregard reality. What I defend are claims that are ignorant, misinformed or simply bull####, and about three of you do this all the time. Trump never said there were good neo nazis or white supremacists. Never....Yet it got posted by you people over and over. It was a gross lie that needed to be refuted. You have stated that the assassination of Soleimani led to things that would not otherwise have happened. Never do you suggest you have any idea why it was done, what he was about or what he was planning. That is deceitful and ignorant. You never suggested that you have any understanding of the details Trump Afghan withdrawal plan. Instead, you incorrectly label people who bring those issues up. You seem to operate at a 30% level, with politics filling the remainder. It is ignorant and tiresome. 23 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: except that you rarely disagree with his statements and policies. even the highly controversial ones. Well, I sure as hell didn't like what happened yesterday, or Greenland or the Gulf of America, but when you have a few people posting absolutely untrue or distorted nonsense, those should be refuted, and it happens here all the time. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 1 Posted March 1 11 minutes ago, sherpa said: Well, I sure as hell didn't like what happened yesterday, or Greenland or the Gulf of America, but when you have a few people posting absolutely untrue or distorted nonsense, those should be refuted, and it happens here all the time. cool. So who was at fault for yesterday? the implication is you feel it was trump. You're against colonizing Greenland. Therefore, making Canada the 51st state is unacceptable? Panama canal? Tariffs on Canada and Mexico? Lots more to ask since I don't recall you volunteering your opposition before. But it's a start.
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