Motorin' Posted February 25 Posted February 25 Does this fall into the Trump giving everything Putin wants camp? https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gdx7488g5o Putin offers Russian and Ukrainian rare minerals to US Russian President Vladimir Putin said he is open to offering the US access to rare minerals, including from Russian-occupied Ukraine.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 25 Posted February 25 (edited) 2 hours ago, Motorin' said: FYI, I didn't use the word genocide. There were about 4,000 civilians killed from 2014-2022 in the border regions. There's plenty of documentation of Ukraine's military attacking and killing ethnic Russians. The difference between us is that I don't feel need to make one side all good and the other side all bad. murder during war= genocide. It was war. ukraine engaged in neither murder nor genocide despite what war criminal putin said. Altogether, about 14,300 people were killed in the Donbas War, both soldiers and civilians. According to the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights, 6,500 were Russian proxy forces, 4,400 were Ukrainian forces, and 3,404 were civilians on both sides of the frontline.[4] The vast majority of civilian deaths were in the first year,[4] and the death rate in the Donbas War was actually falling before the 2022 Russian invasion:[5] in 2019 there were 27 conflict-related civilian deaths, in 2020 there were 26 deaths, and in 2021 there were 25 deaths, over half of them from mines and unexploded ordnance.[4] re relativism, I've been trying to get you magas to think in shades of gray since I started posting. Good to see some ROI. 53 minutes ago, Motorin' said: Russian President Vladimir Putin said he is open to offering the US access to rare minerals, including from Russian-occupied Ukraine. that's mighty nice of him. giving away something he stole. maybe robert kraft can get back his super bowl ring. Edited February 25 by Joe Ferguson forever
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted February 25 Posted February 25 2 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: murder during war= genocide. It was war. ukraine engaged in neither muder or genocide despite what war criminal putin said. Altogether, about 14,300 people were killed in the Donbas War, both soldiers and civilians. According to the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights, 6,500 were Russian proxy forces, 4,400 were Ukrainian forces, and 3,404 were civilians on both sides of the frontline.[4] The vast majority of civilian deaths were in the first year,[4] and the death rate in the Donbas War was actually falling before the 2022 Russian invasion:[5] in 2019 there were 27 conflict-related civilian deaths, in 2020 there were 26 deaths, and in 2021 there were 25 deaths, over half of them from mines and unexploded ordnance.[4] re relativism, I've been trying to get you magas to think in shades of gray since I started posting. Good to see some ROI. that's mighty nice of him. giving away something he stole. maybe robert kraft can get back his super bowl ring. Still circling the drain I see. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 25 Posted February 25 3 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Still circling the drain I see. dude, you were flushed long ago. genetics matter.
Motorin' Posted February 25 Posted February 25 10 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: dude, you were flushed long ago. genetics matter. Talk about Nazi rhetoric. 2 1 1
4th&long Posted February 25 Posted February 25 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Motorin' said: Talk about Nazi rhetoric. Talk about Commie rhetoric. 35 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Still circling the drain I see. Commie lover. Edited February 25 by 4th&long 1 1
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted February 25 Posted February 25 32 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: dude, you were flushed long ago. genetics matter. Do I have the wrong color eyes, hitler? 23 minutes ago, Motorin' said: Talk about Nazi rhetoric. He's trying to join a new hiking group! Give him a break! 2
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 25 Posted February 25 23 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Do I have the wrong color eyes, hitler? Can't see your eyes, just your writing and reasoning. 1
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted February 25 Author Posted February 25 2 hours ago, B-Man said: Here comes the Bull S h * it
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted February 25 Posted February 25 24 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Can't see your eyes, just your writing and reasoning. Can't seem to see those nazi hikers either! 1
Wacka Posted February 25 Posted February 25 Just listen for the singing of "Knapsack o my Back" or Eidelweiss.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 25 Posted February 25 2 hours ago, 4th&long said: Talk about Commie rhetoric. Commie lover. Yes, the irony of progressives being called commies for years by MAGAs, and their orange god jumps into bed with ex KGB almost immediately after becoming president. Then the disciples disseminate Russian propaganda.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 25 Posted February 25 (edited) 1 hour ago, Wacka said: Just listen for the singing of "Knapsack o my Back" or Eidelweiss. Or look for school kids carrying Nazi propaganda home. This shite never happens… https://www.wfsb.com/2024/10/11/neo-nazi-flyers-found-around-town-passed-first-grader-school-bus/ https://www.tmj4.com/news/waukesha-county/its-disgusting-mukwonago-residents-find-neo-nazi-flyers-in-their-neighborhood Edited February 25 by Joe Ferguson forever
Motorin' Posted February 25 Posted February 25 20 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Yes, the irony of progressives being called commies for years by MAGAs, and their orange god jumps into bed with ex KGB almost immediately after becoming president. Then the disciples disseminate Russian propaganda. Tries to stop WWIII = jumps into bed (in Hillary's world.) The problem is your delusional world view is held together by virtue signals, where through the power of headlines repeated ad nauseum you think you can defeat the world's largest nuclear power. Back to reality, Trump has been saying for ten years that European needs to pony up for its own defense. Look what he's motivated them to do. Starmer said today that in another two or three years the UK might actually meet the NATO requirement for defense spending! Yet Europe still pays Russia more for natural gas than they have funded Ukraine's war effort. Meanwhile a Dane with TDS told the EU that that Europe should go to war with the US and make the Euro the world's reserve currency. Talk about liberal delusion at work!
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 25 Posted February 25 2 minutes ago, Motorin' said: Tries to stop WWIII = jumps into bed (in Hillary's world.) The problem is your delusional world view is held together by virtue signals, where through the power of headlines repeated ad nauseum you think you can defeat the world's largest nuclear power. Back to reality, Trump has been saying for ten years that European needs to pony up for its own defense. Look what he's motivated them to do. Starmer said today that in another two or three years the UK might actually meet the NATO requirement for defense spending! Yet Europe still pays Russia more for natural gas than they have funded Ukraine's war effort. Meanwhile a Dane with TDS told the EU that that Europe should go to war with the US and make the Euro the world's reserve currency. Talk about liberal delusion at work! Delusion is defending trump’s statements on Ukraine being the aggressor and believing that peace negotiations with Russia but without Ukraine are appropriate. Trump has chosen Russia over Ukraine and Europe. Finding that disgusting is not virtue signaling, it’s logical. Throwing trusted allies overboard while embracing the world’s least trustworthy leader is illogical and irresponsible. Same as your comments on the Ukrainians murdering Russians to provoke their invasion. Repeating Russian media lies doesn’t make them true.
Motorin' Posted February 25 Posted February 25 1 minute ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Delusion is defending trump’s statements on Ukraine being the aggressor and believing that peace negotiations with Russia but without Ukraine are appropriate. Trump has chosen Russia over Ukraine and Europe. Finding that disgusting is not virtue signaling, it’s logical. Throwing trusted allies overboard while embracing the world’s least trustworthy leader is illogical and irresponsible. Same as your comments on the Ukrainians murdering Russians to provoke their invasion. Repeating Russian media lies doesn’t make them true. Comrade Trump strikes again! https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-war-latest-ukraine-us-reach-agreement-on-minerals-deal/ FYI, I didn't say Ukraine was all to blame. I said they had a part in it. As did the Obama and Biden admins. The thing about truth and accountability is that each side must be weighed for its own actions. But you are on the one sided propaganda train.
Tenhigh Posted February 25 Posted February 25 40 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Or look for school kids carrying Nazi propaganda home. This shite never happens… https://www.wfsb.com/2024/10/11/neo-nazi-flyers-found-around-town-passed-first-grader-school-bus/ https://www.tmj4.com/news/waukesha-county/its-disgusting-mukwonago-residents-find-neo-nazi-flyers-in-their-neighborhood I feel like this may have been you, (to paraphrase the great Anne Murray) trying turn your lies back into truths again.... 😮 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 25 Posted February 25 8 minutes ago, Motorin' said: Comrade Trump strikes again! https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-war-latest-ukraine-us-reach-agreement-on-minerals-deal/ FYI, I didn't say Ukraine was all to blame. I said they had a part in it. As did the Obama and Biden admins. The thing about truth and accountability is that each side must be weighed for its own actions. But you are on the one sided propaganda train. Future monetization only happens if the war ends. Russian comments from your linked article aren’t encouraging. There’s still a great deal to be negotiated and the next scheduled negotiations on the war involve only Russia and the US. We’ll see. 7 minutes ago, Tenhigh said: I feel like this may have been you, (to paraphrase the great Anne Murray) trying turn your lies back into truths again.... 😮 Feel however you want. If you’re still drinking bottom shelf bourbon, you likely feel awful. Sad to see you back. It’s unpleasant.
Tenhigh Posted February 25 Posted February 25 3 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Future monetization only happens if the war ends. Russian comments from your linked article aren’t encouraging. There’s still a great deal to be negotiated and the next scheduled negotiations on the war involve only Russia and the US. We’ll see. Feel however you want. If you’re still drinking bottom shelf bourbon, you likely feel awful. Sad to see you back. It’s unpleasant. You need to either think up a new response or cut back on the bourbon yourself. I was happy staying away but your "shades of grey", comment pulled me back in, herr Mengele. Have you fled the country yet? 1
JDHillFan Posted February 25 Posted February 25 4 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: murder during war= genocide. If you don’t know what the definition of genocide is, please look it up. I suspect you know the definition but being disingenuous is your calling card and you have to stay true to form. Regardless, you shouldn’t cheapen the word. 2
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