Doc Posted February 14 Posted February 14 (edited) 1 hour ago, daz28 said: Just today Europe was stating that they would have no chance at all of keeping up with Russia in munitions. They seemed pretty concerned even if you're not. Link? And munitions are one piece. They don't have nearly the manpower. And then there's the issue of nukes. Edited February 14 by Doc
daz28 Posted February 14 Posted February 14 2 minutes ago, Doc said: Link? And munitions are one piece. They don't have nearly the manpower. And then there's the issue of nukes. Just something I read earlier. 1
Doc Posted February 14 Posted February 14 22 minutes ago, daz28 said: Just something I read earlier. I want details. A link would be nice. And do you recall if it was munitions to supply Ukraine or themselves? 1
daz28 Posted February 14 Posted February 14 1 hour ago, Doc said: I want details. A link would be nice. And do you recall if it was munitions to supply Ukraine or themselves? Themselves. Found it: Europe fears Trump-Putin ‘dirty deal’ as Ukraine scrambles for a seat at the table Story by Analysis by Clare Sebastian and Tim Lister 1
Doc Posted February 14 Posted February 14 30 minutes ago, daz28 said: Themselves. Found it: Europe fears Trump-Putin ‘dirty deal’ as Ukraine scrambles for a seat at the table Story by Analysis by Clare Sebastian and Tim Lister There's no deal unless Ukraine accepts it. And Europe could have started peace talks a long time ago. Maybe this gets them to finally do it.
Coffeesforclosers Posted February 14 Posted February 14 JD Vance says US Troops in Ukraine is on the table if Russia fails to negotiate in good faith Hah. Pete Hesgeth ***** up so bad, we have to threaten Russia with war to get back the leverage we gave up for free. Good job Pete. So far Lloyd Austin on a stretcher is less harmful to our foreign policy than you are. 1
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted February 14 Author Posted February 14 9 minutes ago, Coffeesforclosers said: JD Vance says US Troops in Ukraine is on the table if Russia fails to negotiate in good faith Hah. Pete Hesgeth ***** up so bad, we have to threaten Russia with war to get back the leverage we gave up for free. Good job Pete. So far Lloyd Austin on a stretcher is less harmful to our foreign policy than you are. Oh! Holy sh it! Wow, that's stunning
Coffeesforclosers Posted February 15 Posted February 15 Europe will not be part of Ukraine-Russia peace talks, US envoy says So Ukraine is now free to make whatever side deals with the EU that it wants? Seeing as they aren't going to be bound by any peace deal?
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted February 15 Author Posted February 15 1 hour ago, B-Man said: They lied ? Wow , who would have thought Immediatly, not never, obviously
Doc Posted February 15 Posted February 15 11 minutes ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: Immediatly, not never, obviously Wrong. Otherwise he would have said so. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted Monday at 04:19 PM Posted Monday at 04:19 PM So there's a meeting in Saudi Arabia without Ukraine present. Zelensky said this is a deal breaker. Lavrov said this: https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-sends-russias-top-diplomat-101104484.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall trump's promise to stop the war overnight isn't looking good with this strategy. 1
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted Monday at 04:34 PM Author Posted Monday at 04:34 PM On 2/15/2025 at 4:55 PM, Homelander said: Afghanistan 2.0 1939: Czechs not invited to the partition of their own country, that went well
Doc Posted Monday at 05:10 PM Posted Monday at 05:10 PM 50 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: So there's a meeting in Saudi Arabia without Ukraine present. Zelensky said this is a deal breaker. Lavrov said this: https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-sends-russias-top-diplomat-101104484.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall trump's promise to stop the war overnight isn't looking good with this strategy. It's their right to refuse a deal. 1
B-Man Posted Monday at 07:42 PM Posted Monday at 07:42 PM 2 hours ago, Doc said: It's their right to refuse a deal.
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted Tuesday at 12:31 PM Author Posted Tuesday at 12:31 PM The average (poor) MAGA loser must hate these brave soldiers https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/02/17/trump-deal-putin-us-military-volunteers-ukraine-peace/ US military volunteers fighting alongside Ukraine’s armed forces have branded President Donald Trump a “jackass” over his peace talks with Vladimir Putin, saying Ukraine’s future was not a “business deal”. Hundreds of former US troops have fought on Kyiv’s side in the conflict over the last three years, following Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky’s creation of the International Legion at the start of the war. Most have reacted furiously to the news last week of Mr Trump’s private phone call to Putin, in which he apparently ruled out Nato membership for Kyiv and conceded that Moscow could keep Ukrainian territory it has currently occupied. “Trump is a coward, sucking Putin’s d---,” said Charles Carter, another US volunteer, who previously served with America’s 101st Airborne Division.
All_Pro_Bills Posted Tuesday at 01:24 PM Posted Tuesday at 01:24 PM 40 minutes ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: The average (poor) MAGA loser must hate these brave soldiers https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/02/17/trump-deal-putin-us-military-volunteers-ukraine-peace/ US military volunteers fighting alongside Ukraine’s armed forces have branded President Donald Trump a “jackass” over his peace talks with Vladimir Putin, saying Ukraine’s future was not a “business deal”. Hundreds of former US troops have fought on Kyiv’s side in the conflict over the last three years, following Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky’s creation of the International Legion at the start of the war. Most have reacted furiously to the news last week of Mr Trump’s private phone call to Putin, in which he apparently ruled out Nato membership for Kyiv and conceded that Moscow could keep Ukrainian territory it has currently occupied. “Trump is a coward, sucking Putin’s d---,” said Charles Carter, another US volunteer, who previously served with America’s 101st Airborne Division. As many here opposed to inciting and funding the conflict have said from the beginning, this was never about saving Ukranian democracy. It was about weakening Russia and thwarting efforts to integrate the Russian economy with western Europe. Simply, there are other priorities and bigger fish to fry now (that always existed but were ignored by the Biden crew). So don't be surprised by Trump's efforts to move Russia out of its arrangements with China. This is the start. Clearly, China is the biggest threat to the US. Other aspects of this new focus are efforts to drive Chinese influence our of the western hemisphere. Shifting the current 2 on 1 arrangement in our favor is a likely strategic goal. You can shake your pom poms and shout your slogans all you want but China's the target now. Not Russia, to the dismay of the war enthusiasts out there. Given they're out of positions of power and authority they're left to complaining.
Doc Posted Tuesday at 01:44 PM Posted Tuesday at 01:44 PM 19 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: As many here opposed to inciting and funding the conflict have said from the beginning, this was never about saving Ukranian democracy. It was about weakening Russia and thwarting efforts to integrate the Russian economy with western Europe. Simply, there are other priorities and bigger fish to fry now (that always existed but were ignored by the Biden crew). So don't be surprised by Trump's efforts to move Russia out of its arrangements with China. This is the start. Clearly, China is the biggest threat to the US. Other aspects of this new focus are efforts to drive Chinese influence our of the western hemisphere. Shifting the current 2 on 1 arrangement in our favor is a likely strategic goal. You can shake your pom poms and shout your slogans all you want but China's the target now. Not Russia, to the dismay of the war enthusiasts out there. Given they're out of positions of power and authority they're left to complaining. They can't quit Russia. They still think it's the reason Hilly lost to Trump. 1 1
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