B-Man Posted September 29 Posted September 29 Zelensky Has Overplayed His Hand Jazz Shaw For weeks now, we have been told repeatedly that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenski had a "secret plan for victory" over Russia that he would unveil by the end of the month. That finally happened this week, with Zelensky launching a "charm tour" across a variety of stops, primarily in the United States, seeking to gain the full support of American leaders (and potential leaders) to achieve his nation's ambitious goals. But what he actually managed to achieve appeared to be more of a crash course in the finer details of divisive American politics while taking a sledgehammer-style approach to a delicate situation that one Ukrainian foreign policy analyst described as being "a big mistake." Zelensky wound up poking his nose into American party politics and making demands that even those most likely to support his requests edged away from carefully. (BBC) So Zelensky's "victory plan" turned out to be essentially nothing more than the same list of demands he's been making all along. If anything, his requirements were even more extreme than his previous speeches seemed to be. They can best be summed up by saying that Zelensky is yet again thumbing his nose at the idea of any sort of negotiated peace deal with Moscow. He was basically telling American leaders, "If you just give me a lot more weapons that are even more powerful than what we've already received, I will not only drive the Russians out of Ukraine but I will defeat Russia itself." Oh, and he would also like an invitation to join NATO. https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2024/09/29/zelenskys-has-overplayed-his-hand-n3795157
Coffeesforclosers Posted October 3 Posted October 3 Xitter brains aside... I'm much more interested in what, if any effect the asswhooping Israel is about to lay on Iran will have on the war. Israel blew up Iranian ammunition stocks in Syria that were on or near a Russian base. Russian air defense tried to intercept Israeli ordinance and failed. Iran tops up Russian drone and IRBM stocks on the regular. Maybe that ordinance stays home now. Maybe Iran tells their glorious, peace-loving, anti- imperialist, de-nazifying Russian sponsors that if they want more ammo for Donbas, they send S400s and S400 Ammo to Iran right ***** now. Bibbi spent years cozying up to Putin, and all it got him was throne under the bus because Russia now needs Iranian ammunition more than it needs Israeli goodwill. To Bibbi's credit, he found the correct response.
B-Man Posted October 3 Posted October 3 Still wearing his 'combat outfit'. still an actor not a president. 1
All_Pro_Bills Posted October 3 Posted October 3 (edited) 27 minutes ago, B-Man said: Still wearing his 'combat outfit'. still an actor not a president. I guess the military guy "look" was tested on focus groups and they determined the image would guarantee the citizens of donor countries would have a constant visual reminder about the conflict on display at all times. But for goodness sake, you've gotten $200B in assistance. Get yourself a decent business suit! Edited October 3 by All_Pro_Bills 1 1
L Ron Burgundy Posted October 3 Posted October 3 5 hours ago, Coffeesforclosers said: Xitter brains aside... I'm much more interested in what, if any effect the asswhooping Israel is about to lay on Iran will have on the war. Israel blew up Iranian ammunition stocks in Syria that were on or near a Russian base. Russian air defense tried to intercept Israeli ordinance and failed. Iran tops up Russian drone and IRBM stocks on the regular. Maybe that ordinance stays home now. Maybe Iran tells their glorious, peace-loving, anti- imperialist, de-nazifying Russian sponsors that if they want more ammo for Donbas, they send S400s and S400 Ammo to Iran right ***** now. Bibbi spent years cozying up to Putin, and all it got him was throne under the bus because Russia now needs Iranian ammunition more than it needs Israeli goodwill. To Bibbi's credit, he found the correct response. I've had thoughts in this direction as well. Probably one less partner from Russia to purchase arms from, especially drones. Other options will possibly have lower quality.
B-Man Posted October 3 Posted October 3 21 hours ago, Starr-Bills said: LOL. I just noticed Starr-boys latest silly response. Do you know how many times people have tried that exact same childish thing in the past 12 years ? The adults on the board don’t fall for that nonsense, but you be you Information comes from many sources, come out from under your rock. 😎 1
Starr-Bills Posted October 3 Posted October 3 (edited) 4 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: I guess the military guy "look" was tested on focus groups and they determined the image would guarantee the citizens of donor countries would have a constant visual reminder about the conflict on display at all times. But for goodness sake, you've gotten $200B in assistance. Get yourself a decent business suit! You guys are gross. Edited October 3 by Starr-Bills I looked it up the other day it’s $175 B
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted October 4 Posted October 4 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/02/ukraine-forces-withdrawn-vuhledar-donetsk Ukraine has said that its forces have withdrawn from the eastern city of Vuhledar, a defensive bastion that had resisted repeated Russian attacks since Vladimir Putin’s 2022 full-scale invasion. The military command in Kyiv said its troops left late on Tuesday. They had retreated in order to preserve personnel and combat equipment, it said, adding that Russian combat units had attacked from three directions and were close to “encircling” the city. Biden has really sh*t the bed with his handling of Ukraine. The Ukrainian people deserve better. 1 1 1
Tiberius Posted October 8 Author Posted October 8 1 hour ago, B-Man said: Yes, and we will give it to him. How is Trump's plan for appeasing Putin and different from Neville Chamberlain's appeasement of Hitler in 1938? Giving up sovereign territory of a nation on the promise that the war mongering dictator will behave after he gets what he wants. Trump is an appeaser, pure and simple
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted October 8 Posted October 8 And here I was thinking President Brandon effed this up from the get-go and it’s actually the fault of Black Jesus. Unbelievable. 1
B-Man Posted October 10 Posted October 10 North Korea Now Sending Troops to Ukraine to Fight Alongside Russians Rick Moran North Korea is already supplying Russia with tens of thousands of 155MM artillery shells and other military supplies in exchange for Russian food and oil the impoverished nation desperately needs. Now, North Korean leader Kim Jong-un is sending his soldiers to fight side by side with Russians in Ukraine. "As Russia and North Korea have signed a mutual treaty akin to a military alliance, the possibility of such a deployment is highly likely," South Korea's defense chief told the country's parliament, adding that more of Pyongyang's soldiers are likely to be deployed. https://pjmedia.com/rick-moran/2024/10/09/north-korea-now-sending-troops-to-ukraine-to-fight-alongside-russians-n4933201 https://www.politico.eu/article/north-korean-soldiers-are-likely-fighting-in-ukraine-seouls-defense-minister-says/ 1
Starr-Bills Posted October 10 Posted October 10 On 10/8/2024 at 6:46 PM, Biden is Mentally Fit said: And here I was thinking President Brandon effed this up from the get-go and it’s actually the fault of Black Jesus. Unbelievable. "Brandon" "Black Jesus" and Unbelievable? Sigh so boring, and the stupid name calling is disqualifying from being taken seriously. 🫣 Like are you 5? 1. This is not the hot take everyone thinks it is, Of course Obama could have done more, and to be honest, him not doing more could have been the impetuous for Putin to think he could meddle in a US election. Maybe if half the GOP wasn't spending the 4th of July vacation with Putin things would have been different. 2. Biden could have done more better as well. Nip this thing in the bud 2 years ago with overwhelming support instead of the trickle. 3. The GOP could have not given Putin a 6 month window while US aid was withheld. 4. 1 and 2 are honest mistake 3 is active sabotage of US foreign policy. 1
Tommy Callahan Posted October 10 Posted October 10 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Starr-Bills said: "Brandon" "Black Jesus" and Unbelievable? Sigh so boring, and the stupid name calling is disqualifying from being taken seriously. 🫣 Like are you 5? 1. This is not the hot take everyone thinks it is, Of course Obama could have done more, and to be honest, him not doing more could have been the impetuous for Putin to think he could meddle in a US election. Maybe if half the GOP wasn't spending the 4th of July vacation with Putin things would have been different. 2. Biden could have done more better as well. Nip this thing in the bud 2 years ago with overwhelming support instead of the trickle. 3. The GOP could have not given Putin a 6 month window while US aid was withheld. 4. 1 and 2 are honest mistake 3 is active sabotage of US foreign policy. Putin invaded under Obama and he did nothing. It is what it is. No aid was actually withheld. Edited October 10 by Tommy Callahan
wnyguy Posted October 10 Posted October 10 2 minutes ago, Starr-Bills said: I believe the first is what I actually said (i.e. for the knuckle draggers in the front Obama issued some strongly worded statements and provided non-lethal aid if memory serves) and second, wasn't there an impeachment over this little event you are alluding to? $400M quaint. Come on man, look I know you're an expert on every subject, but you know that no aid was denied to Ukraine. Even though Trump knew the corruption was rampant in that country aid was given. And it is still being given with absolutely no oversight on where it is actually going. You know that is the truth no matter how much you wish it wasn't. 1
Tiberius Posted October 10 Author Posted October 10 58 minutes ago, B-Man said: North Korea Now Sending Troops to Ukraine to Fight Alongside Russians Rick Moran North Korea is already supplying Russia with tens of thousands of 155MM artillery shells and other military supplies in exchange for Russian food and oil the impoverished nation desperately needs. Now, North Korean leader Kim Jong-un is sending his soldiers to fight side by side with Russians in Ukraine. "As Russia and North Korea have signed a mutual treaty akin to a military alliance, the possibility of such a deployment is highly likely," South Korea's defense chief told the country's parliament, adding that more of Pyongyang's soldiers are likely to be deployed. https://pjmedia.com/rick-moran/2024/10/09/north-korea-now-sending-troops-to-ukraine-to-fight-alongside-russians-n4933201 https://www.politico.eu/article/north-korean-soldiers-are-likely-fighting-in-ukraine-seouls-defense-minister-says/ Yup, let's appease these POS. I'm sure they are telling the truth that they will not seek anymore territory to conquer or populations of people to feed into their gulags Hope we send more weapons to kill they people 1
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