wnyguy Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 (edited) 6 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Which beg the question, where did it go? My 2 guesses. 1. Stolen by Ukrainian criminal gangs or oligarchs then sold off on the black market to foreign adversaries and terrorist groups. 2. Diverted in-transit by the CIA to fund and arm off-the-books covert operations in places like Africa. But the question remains why would Democrats block the appointment of an inspector general to make sure billions of dollars is going where it should go? What say you Tibs, Scraps, 4th, Fergie, Roundy, Bill Starr, L Ron? Edited September 17 by wnyguy forgot to add L ron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 7 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Which beg the question, where did it go? My 2 guesses. 1. Stolen by Ukrainian criminal gangs or oligarchs then sold off on the black market to foreign adversaries and terrorist groups. 2. Diverted in-transit by the CIA to fund and arm off-the-books covert operations in places like Africa. 3. Divert to us elections? To keep the money train/grift going? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 3 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: 3. Divert to us elections? To keep the money train/grift going? There are people getting filthy rich off of this blood money we keep sending to "Ukraine". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 The Transcript of Fareed Zakaria's interview with Zelensky. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 Still as corrupt as ever... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr-Bills Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 3 hours ago, wnyguy said: There are people getting filthy rich off of this blood money we keep sending to "Ukraine". Like Raytheon, TRW, Boeing, etc… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted yesterday at 12:20 PM Author Share Posted yesterday at 12:20 PM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted yesterday at 02:12 PM Share Posted yesterday at 02:12 PM 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: I can't believe (well yes I can) that you posted that as if it was a good thing. End the war. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr-Bills Posted yesterday at 02:28 PM Share Posted yesterday at 02:28 PM 15 minutes ago, B-Man said: I can't believe (well yes I can) that you posted that as if it was a good thing. End the war. Ask your boss to leave Ukraine is you are so concerned with ending the war. Also this quoting with no content is so on brand for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted yesterday at 02:34 PM Share Posted yesterday at 02:34 PM 4 minutes ago, Starr-Bills said: He does it so that the ones who have Tibs on ignore won't have to see his inane posts. It's a courtesy of sorts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted yesterday at 02:36 PM Share Posted yesterday at 02:36 PM Just now, wnyguy said: He does it so that the ones who have Tibs on ignore won't have to see his inane posts. It's a courtesy of sorts. Exactly. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted yesterday at 03:20 PM Share Posted yesterday at 03:20 PM Sanctions have only drawn Russia closer to Iran (flush with cash, also thanks to Biden-Harris), and weapons restrictions that give the other guy effectively unlimited sanctuary cost treasure, lives, and time. So if you were looking for a set of policies that would strengthen the anti-Western axis while bleeding out a potential friend, look no further than this administration. https://instapundit.com/673836/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted yesterday at 04:59 PM Author Share Posted yesterday at 04:59 PM 2 hours ago, B-Man said: I can't believe (well yes I can) that you posted that as if it was a good thing. End the war. It bothers you we are helping a nation of 40 million people fight against their enslavement. Are you an American? I would put up a fight to keep you from a Russian gulag 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted yesterday at 06:53 PM Share Posted yesterday at 06:53 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: It bothers you we are helping a nation of 40 million people fight against their enslavement. Are you an American? I would put up a fight to keep you from a Russian gulag What bothers sensible people is we've spent $200 billion and cost the lives of about 500K Ukrainian soldiers, witnessed the country's infrastructure become obliterated, and numb nut leaders in the EU are pushing escalating the fighting which will lead to more deaths. And those 40 million people? Most could care less whether the ethic Russian majority in Donbas are under Ukraine, Russia, or governed by some independent territory. The latest the geniuses are coming up with is allowing Ukraine to use "long range" missiles that can only be targeted through the use of US or NATO satellite systems which effectively means our military personnel are performing the targeting work and therefore we're at war with Russia. The only Ukrainian involved is the guy pushing the button. And please for the love of God please don't say I'm appeasing Putin. The risk of blowing up the world in some nuclear WW3 scenario is a cost too great and a risk best avoided. Other than having a desire for suicide, I'm not sure why anyone is so all-in on this idea. Because it won't be just me, you'll be dead too. I've opposed this entire operation since the beginning and you've been waving your pompoms and all you've got to show for it is a big 200 billion dollar bill, lots of dead people, lost territory, and pretty much a no-win situation unless NATO gets directly involved. When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. Edited yesterday at 06:55 PM by All_Pro_Bills 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted yesterday at 07:53 PM Share Posted yesterday at 07:53 PM Back when Joe Biden was still the person at the top of the Democrat reelection ticket, the campaign offered Ukraine President Zelenskyy a suggestion for how he could give their November hopes a boost. More recently Zelenskyy had criticism for Trump running mate JD Vance Normally this would just be remarks about politics, but it looks like the White House has decided to try and use Zelenskyy to provide them with a boost in a swing state, all on the U.S. taxpayers' dime. Guess who's back in the U.S., and also guess where the White House flew him to for a visit. Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro was also there: Yes, it does raise some serious questions. "Journalists" might not ask them, but somebody needs to (we won't hold our breath). https://twitchy.com/dougp/2024/09/23/wait-the-wh-used-taxpayer-dollars-to-fly-zelenskyy-to-a-swing-state-after-slamming-jd-vance-n2401316 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted yesterday at 09:16 PM Share Posted yesterday at 09:16 PM On 9/17/2024 at 9:28 AM, wnyguy said: But the question remains why would Democrats block the appointment of an inspector general to make sure billions of dollars is going where it should go? What say you Tibs, Scraps, 4th, Fergie, Roundy, Bill Starr, L Ron? LOL. Do you ever get tired of being manipulated? Does the article that fired you up say things were being stolen? You seem to think so. Find me Zelensky's words where he says that. Or did you and and the stooges get your pitchforks out because of a carefully worded X headline? Worded specifically in a way to rile up the masses of asses? I mean, if i'm worng, find something that shows a lot of our money/aid is being wasted or stolen etc. From what I see, most of the money doesn't make it to Ukraine because it's spent in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 2 hours ago, B-Man said: Back when Joe Biden was still the person at the top of the Democrat reelection ticket, the campaign offered Ukraine President Zelenskyy a suggestion for how he could give their November hopes a boost. More recently Zelenskyy had criticism for Trump running mate JD Vance Normally this would just be remarks about politics, but it looks like the White House has decided to try and use Zelenskyy to provide them with a boost in a swing state, all on the U.S. taxpayers' dime. Guess who's back in the U.S., and also guess where the White House flew him to for a visit. Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro was also there: Yes, it does raise some serious questions. "Journalists" might not ask them, but somebody needs to (we won't hold our breath). https://twitchy.com/dougp/2024/09/23/wait-the-wh-used-taxpayer-dollars-to-fly-zelenskyy-to-a-swing-state-after-slamming-jd-vance-n2401316 This would be election interference but we already control Ukraine. This moron just forgot to shut up he accidentally set himself into Democrat Deep State mode. Revealing the total sham this is over there. Joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 2 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said: LOL. Do you ever get tired of being manipulated? Does the article that fired you up say things were being stolen? You seem to think so. Find me Zelensky's words where he says that. Or did you and and the stooges get your pitchforks out because of a carefully worded X headline? Worded specifically in a way to rile up the masses of asses? I mean, if i'm worng, find something that shows a lot of our money/aid is being wasted or stolen etc. From what I see, most of the money doesn't make it to Ukraine because it's spent in the US. Someone actually read the transcript I posted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 36 minutes ago, Coffeesforclosers said: Someone actually read the transcript I posted. I think we all know Ukraine is a very corrupt country. This is an unfortunate fact. But people are dying, a lot of people. And Zelensky has shown he is not afraid to fire people not doing their job, or even for not being very good at doing your job. If someone were found to be stealing right now I'm pretty confident they'd be in big trouble. As in soon to be not breathing or in a jail so bad you'll wish you weren't. He knows exactly how bad it would be to find out his people were stealing. I've harped on this but the reason Ukraine is corrupt is because of Russia. I've seen this firsthand in nearly every eastern european country. Statistics back up this theory. As these places distance themselves from communism, and Russian influence, crime and corruption decrease. Russia is a f'd up country at so many levels. They need to be stopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago 34 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said: I think we all know Ukraine is a very corrupt country. This is an unfortunate fact. But people are dying, a lot of people. And Zelensky has shown he is not afraid to fire people not doing their job, or even for not being very good at doing your job. If someone were found to be stealing right now I'm pretty confident they'd be in big trouble. As in soon to be not breathing or in a jail so bad you'll wish you weren't. He knows exactly how bad it would be to find out his people were stealing. I've harped on this but the reason Ukraine is corrupt is because of Russia. I've seen this firsthand in nearly every eastern european country. Statistics back up this theory. As these places distance themselves from communism, and Russian influence, crime and corruption decrease. Russia is a f'd up country at so many levels. They need to be stopped. I agree. I just wanted to see how xitter brained these takes would get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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