Tiberius Posted September 12 Author Share Posted September 12 34 minutes ago, Pokebball said: When? Who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr-Bills Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 25 minutes ago, Biden is Mentally Fit said: Really persuasive argument here. Who wants to find out? good heavens, man This is an insightful watch. Note remember when the war started and tires et al in Russia’s army were failing for lack of maintenance and replacement due to massive corruption? Billions stolen. Why would nukes that will never be used get better treatment when the threat is all you need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 32 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Who knows and that's the problem 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraps Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Pokebball said: and that's the problem Name the war whose end date you predicted while it was ongoing. Edited September 12 by Scraps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 2 minutes ago, Scraps said: Name the war whose end date you predicted while it was ongoing. why are you OK with endless war 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraps Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 Just now, Pokebball said: why are you OK with endless war I don't know that this war is endless. I'm just pointing out the absurdity of you question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr-Bills Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 5 minutes ago, Pokebball said: why are you OK with endless war That is not at all what he said or implied. Pedantic is not smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 12 Author Share Posted September 12 33 minutes ago, Pokebball said: and that's the problem No, the problem is Putin is invading a sovereign nation 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 17 hours ago, Tiberius said: No, the problem is Putin is invading a sovereign nation This is an argument of the pot calling the kettle black. How many soveriegn nations has Washington attacked directly or through proxy in say, the past 25 years? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 13 Author Share Posted September 13 1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said: This is an argument of the pot calling the kettle black. How many soveriegn nations has Washington attacked directly or through proxy in say, the past 25 years? That's what happens when you are charged with defending world order. Putin was simply trying to crush a free, independent republic. I guess you can't see the difference. You are MAGA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: That's what happens when you are charged with defending world order. Putin was simply trying to crush a free, independent republic. I guess you can't see the difference. You are MAGA our foreign policy has been to put out global fires before they grow to the point, they could create a war that could suck in more countries. IE, nip it in the bud. Eff, the wants and needs of the people of the world. it's about "entities" having governments that can be managed or controlled. We have no issue throwing democracy out of the window if the people vote for someone, we don't like. A republic with so much corruption they couldn't be accepted into NATO. That now is being ran by martial law. I still remember when this all started in 2014, and it was about protecting democracy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 13 Author Share Posted September 13 23 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: our foreign policy has been to put out global fires before they grow to the point, they could create a war that could suck in more countries. IE, nip it in the bud. Eff, the wants and needs of the people of the world. it's about "entities" having governments that can be managed or controlled. We have no issue throwing democracy out of the window if the people vote for someone, we don't like. A republic with so much corruption they couldn't be accepted into NATO. That now is being ran by martial law. I still remember when this all started in 2014, and it was about protecting democracy. Ok, you think our government is evil. I get it. That’s why electing a pos like Trump is a good thing in your eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: That's what happens when you are charged with defending world order. Putin was simply trying to crush a free, independent republic. I guess you can't see the difference. You are MAGA Ukraine was independent until Victoria Nuland and her State Department staff and the CIA engineered a coup in 2014 that removed the elected President and installed a government hand picked by Washington. 47 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Ok, you think our government is evil. I get it. That’s why electing a pos like Trump is a good thing in your eyes Slightly better than the drooling vegetable and the cackling douche bag. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraps Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 1 minute ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Ukraine was independent until Victoria Nuland and her State Department staff and the CIA engineered a coup in 2014 that removed the elected President and installed a government hand picked by Washington. Meh. If that government had the support of the people, it would not have fallen. Don't you find a full scale invasion more odious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49er Fan Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 14 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Ukraine was independent until Victoria Nuland and her State Department staff and the CIA engineered a coup in 2014 that removed the elected President and installed a government hand picked by Washington. Slightly better than the drooling vegetable and the cackling douche bag. You’re a big Paul Manafort fan, aren’t you 😂 https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/08/04/ukraine-maidan-revolution-russia-coup-myth-yanukovych/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 21 hours ago, Pokebball said: why are you OK with endless war Once again, America! World Cop has to keep the peace because, well, because... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 3 hours ago, 49er Fan said: You’re a big Paul Manafort fan, aren’t you 😂 https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/08/04/ukraine-maidan-revolution-russia-coup-myth-yanukovych/ The more All Pro posts about her, the more I think Victoria Nuland would make a great Secretary of State. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 4 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Ukraine was independent until Victoria Nuland and her State Department staff and the CIA engineered a coup in 2014 that removed the elected President and installed a government hand picked by Washington. Slightly better than the drooling vegetable and the cackling douche bag. As usual you have ZERO proof. You take something innocuous as the US donated to an opposition party (opposing Putin) to mean we engineered a coup. You literally are a useful idiot for the Russians. It's quite amazing. You may be an eloquent poster but not a self aware one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 1 hour ago, L Ron Burgundy said: As usual you have ZERO proof. You take something innocuous as the US donated to an opposition party (opposing Putin) to mean we engineered a coup. You literally are a useful idiot for the Russians. It's quite amazing. You may be an eloquent poster but not a self aware one. Did the U.S. help install dictator Sadam Hussein to act as a counter to Iran, and to do the bidding of the U.S. government? This is just one example of dozens of times our government has done this around the world… One could argue that blackmail and coups (from Europe, to Africa, to South America, and US) are our #1 foreign/domestic policy strategy…👍 And everyone who opposes, or even questions, this strategy is told (by the Security State/Intelligence agencies) that they are echoing Russian propaganda- just like the Hunter laptop…blah blah blah… After constantly getting debunked, our intelligence agencies can only “go to the well” so many times before people start laughing at how much of a joke it has become…👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 1 hour ago, JaCrispy said: Did the U.S. help install dictator Sadam Hussein to act as a counter to Iran, and to do the bidding of the U.S. government? This is just one example of dozens of times our government has done this around the world… One could argue that blackmail and coups (from Europe, to Africa, to South America, and US) are our #1 foreign/domestic policy strategy…👍 And everyone who opposes, or even questions, this strategy is told (by the Security State/Intelligence agencies) that they are echoing Russian propaganda- just like the Hunter laptop…blah blah blah… After constantly getting debunked, our intelligence agencies can only “go to the well” so many times before people start laughing at how much of a joke it has become…👍 I'm not saying we haven't played this game in the past. That is fact. I am saying we didn't in Ukraine. And you have zero proof. That never matters to you people. I'd bet 75% of the flat earth type wackiness you believe in can't be proven. Just like the hunter laptop. My God be smarter. That story on its face was absurd. And what do you have on it? Hunters *****. Great job!! 👍 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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