Tommy Callahan Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 4 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Vance was a Marine Corps journalist/correspondent. He was deployed to Iraq, basically as an in-house reporter, for I think 6 months. So yes, he was in an active war theater, much like Al Gore's service in the Vietnam era. I'm not in any way belittling his service - he was obviously bright and worked his way into that assignment - but I'm not sure it's accurate to say he fought in a war. What branch did you serve in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Just now, Tommy Callahan said: What branch did you serve in? None. But what did I say that was wrong? Vance enlisted in the Marine Corps, served honorably including in Iraq, but there is no indication that he "fought in a war." If I'm wrong, well, please point to something that corrects me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 (edited) 3 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: None. But what did I say that was wrong? Vance enlisted in the Marine Corps, served honorably including in Iraq, but there is no indication that he "fought in a war." If I'm wrong, well, please point to something that corrects me. Being in an active theater of war counts as fighting in a war, even in a clerical position. Your life is at risk from mortar and rocket attacks. You're in the middle of an active insurgency. It counts. Edited July 17 by yall 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Vance enlisted in the Corps as a combat correspondent, or 4341 military occupational specialty, according to his service record, which was provided to Military.com by the service on Monday. He served for four years, from 2003 to 2007. During that time, he deployed to Iraq for six months. The last enlisted vice president was Al Gore, who similarly deployed to Vietnam for six months as an Army correspondent. Vance earned the Marine Corps Good Conduct Medal, Navy and Marine Corps Achievement Medal, Iraq Campaign Medal, Sea Service Deployment Ribbon, and some conventional honors awarded during the Global War on Terror. https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/07/16/jd-vances-marine-corps-service-would-set-him-apart-most-vice-presidents.html Just now, yall said: Being in an active theater of war counts as fighting in a war, even in a clerical position. You're life is at risk from mortar and rocket attacks. You're in the middle of an active insurgency. It counts. No doubt that's true. Again, I'm not arguing about any of that other than the descriptor "fought" in a war. Served in a war theater? Even in a combat zone? Sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said: Vance enlisted in the Corps as a combat correspondent, or 4341 military occupational specialty, according to his service record, which was provided to Military.com by the service on Monday. He served for four years, from 2003 to 2007. During that time, he deployed to Iraq for six months. The last enlisted vice president was Al Gore, who similarly deployed to Vietnam for six months as an Army correspondent. Vance earned the Marine Corps Good Conduct Medal, Navy and Marine Corps Achievement Medal, Iraq Campaign Medal, Sea Service Deployment Ribbon, and some conventional honors awarded during the Global War on Terror. https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/07/16/jd-vances-marine-corps-service-would-set-him-apart-most-vice-presidents.html No doubt that's true. Again, I'm not arguing about any of that other than the descriptor "fought" in a war. Served in a war theater? Even in a combat zone? Sure. Yeah, "fought" is fine. If there are any other vets here that disagree, feel free to chime in. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 17 Author Share Posted July 17 10 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: What branch did you serve in? And you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: And you? I'm not parroting msm while trying to discredit marines that risked their lives in war zones. That's all you guys. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sherpa Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Vance wasn't a tip of the spear guy in his active duty assignments, but he received enlisted Marine Corps training, and that is nothing to sneeze at. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doc Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Putin favored Biden. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/18/europe/ukraine-germany-aid-halved-intl/index.html Germany effing Ukraine. Somehow that becomes a TRUMP headline. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 18 Author Share Posted July 18 Can’t say you don’t know who and what you are voting for 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 18 Author Share Posted July 18 39 minutes ago, Doc said: Putin favored Biden. And water is dry... Fascism and lies, hand and hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 58 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/18/europe/ukraine-germany-aid-halved-intl/index.html Germany effing Ukraine. Somehow that becomes a TRUMP headline. It's CNN, what did you expect? Germany decides on their own to halve funding to Ukraine and they just had to stick Trump's name in there so as to blame him. 40 minutes ago, Tiberius said: And water is dry... Fascism and lies, hand and hand Oh, the hypocrisy! Thanks for taking the bait. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, Doc said: Putin favored Biden. Whether Putin favored Biden or not from a results perspective it seems like the manipulated results of 2020 US election worked out pretty well for him. He skirted the sanctions, ditched the US dollar and set other countries on course to do the same, established closer ties with China, consolidated alliances with other anti-US countries, weakened the economies of Europe, and occupies Crimea and other provinces that have majority ethnic Russian populations. Feeble Joe and his gang of misfits and cretins handed Putin all of this and people want to say he favored Trump? They're in denial of reality and can't be reasoned with or think critically. So don't bother trying. Edited July 18 by All_Pro_Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 18 Author Share Posted July 18 13 minutes ago, Doc said: It's CNN, what did you expect? Germany decides on their own to halve funding to Ukraine and they just had to stick Trump's name in there so as to blame him. Oh, the hypocrisy! Thanks for taking the bait. Sure Comrade You are pro-Putin, just like the rest of MAGA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 2 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Whether Putin favored Biden or not from a results perspective it seems like the manipulated results of 2020 US election worked out pretty well for him. He skirted the sanctions, ditched the US dollar and set other countries on course to do the same, established closer ties with China, consolidated alliances with other anti-US countries, weakened the economies of Europe, and occupies Crimea and other provinces that have majority ethnic Russian populations. Feeble Joe and his gang of misfits and cretins handed Putin all of this and people want to say he favored Trump? They're in denial of reality and can't be reasoned with or think critically. So don't bother trying. Oh, I wasn't. I was trying to bait him into making a hypocrite of himself...and it worked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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