Tiberius Posted June 15 Author Share Posted June 15 10 minutes ago, Doc said: Not attacking Ukraine for 4 years under Trump "doesn't show he waited"? LOL! Yes, I'm the one not making sense... And don't be silly with the rest of what you wrote. Trump strengthened NATO by scaring them into contributing their fair share. And if Trump wouldn't have lifted a finger (maybe true) and/or was/is a Putin puppet, why didn't Putin invade? So far none of you have given a serious answer to that question. It doesn't. Maybe he wasn't ready. You have any proof at all Putin consider Trump hostile in that regards? Trump praised the invasion Tell us why Putin didn't invade under Trump. Explain the reasoning. You have not. Putin was afraid of Trump? Putin loves Trump and didn't want to make him uncomfortable? Something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 6 minutes ago, Tiberius said: It doesn't. Maybe he wasn't ready. You have any proof at all Putin consider Trump hostile in that regards? Trump praised the invasion Tell us why Putin didn't invade under Trump. Explain the reasoning. You have not. Putin was afraid of Trump? Putin loves Trump and didn't want to make him uncomfortable? Something else? Timing was based on the situation in Ukraine not the US. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 15 Author Share Posted June 15 14 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Timing was based on the situation in Ukraine not the US. Great point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 This entire discussion of whether Putin would have or would not have done something under Trump is speculative idiocy, as is speculation about nuclear war vis a vis Russia. The fact is that Biden has a decades long history of really bad views on foreign policy, and is totally incompetent and unable, mentally, to serve in the office he holds, which happens to be the most powerful in history. We need to get through this seven months, but it doesn't look good. Either way, anybody who defends his mental capacity is clearly a moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 44 minutes ago, Tiberius said: It doesn't. Maybe he wasn't ready. You have any proof at all Putin consider Trump hostile in that regards? Trump praised the invasion Tell us why Putin didn't invade under Trump. Explain the reasoning. You have not. Putin was afraid of Trump? Putin loves Trump and didn't want to make him uncomfortable? Something else? You know why he didn't invade under Trump. You just can't bring yourself to say it. 37 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Timing was based on the situation in Ukraine not the US. What "situation" was that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 15 Author Share Posted June 15 1 minute ago, Doc said: You know why he didn't invade under Trump. You just can't bring yourself to say it. I can't? You are saying it's so, but won't say why. Let's hear (read) it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 17 minutes ago, Tiberius said: I can't? You are saying it's so, but won't say why. Let's hear (read) it! Yes, why I believe he didn't attack under Trump is a complete mystery... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 15 Author Share Posted June 15 4 minutes ago, Doc said: Yes, why I believe he didn't attack under Trump is a complete mystery... Still no answer 🤷🏼♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 38 minutes ago, Doc said: What "situation" was that? Zelensky. Zelensky made it clear he wasn't going to play ball with Russia, Putin invaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 3 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Zelensky. Zelensky made it clear he wasn't going to play ball with Russia, Putin invaded. Poroshenko played ball with Russia and he invaded in 2014. Zelensky was elected in May of 2019 and was a newb. If Trump was Putin's puppet, it would have been the perfect time to invade anytime from the beginning of 2017 to at least the middle of 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 Quick! Someone remind her that she's supporting the neo-nazi, globalist, warmongering, uniparty, imperialist elites! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 On 6/15/2024 at 2:12 PM, sherpa said: This entire discussion of whether Putin would have or would not have done something under Trump is speculative idiocy, as is speculation about nuclear war vis a vis Russia. The fact is that Biden has a decades long history of really bad views on foreign policy, and is totally incompetent and unable, mentally, to serve in the office he holds, which happens to be the most powerful in history. We need to get through this seven months, but it doesn't look good. Either way, anybody who defends his mental capacity is clearly a moron. Probably 4 years and 7 months. The other option couldn't tell the difference between Ukraine and Tajikistan. Both options are embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 16 Author Share Posted June 16 So dumb On 6/15/2024 at 2:12 PM, sherpa said: This entire discussion of whether Putin would have or would not have done something under Trump is speculative idiocy, as is speculation about nuclear war vis a vis Russia. The fact is that Biden has a decades long history of really bad views on foreign policy, and is totally incompetent and unable, mentally, to serve in the office he holds, which happens to be the most powerful in history. We need to get through this seven months, but it doesn't look good. Either way, anybody who defends his mental capacity is clearly a moron. And what? Have Trump save the day? 🤡 You really think Biden is the one who is incompetent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 30 minutes ago, Tiberius said: So dumb And what? Have Trump save the day? 🤡 You really think Biden is the one who is incompetent? Are you completely incompetent regarding claiming what other's think? I never said a thing about Trump, and I certainly don't view him as an answer. The point is that Biden is diminished to the point of serious concern, and there is no doubt. That emboldens adversaries. That is my point, and resist your undisciplined urges to state what others think. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Uh-huh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 11 minutes ago, B-Man said: Uh-huh. Linked? Azov are Nazis. There's some history here dating to WW2 collaboration with Hitler's SS and genocide. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Yeah but they're "over there" Nazis. Just like Palestinians and ME Muslims are "over there" people who hate women and LGB. And therefore it's fine with the Dems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 4 minutes ago, Doc said: Yeah but they're "over there" Nazis. Just like Palestinians and ME Muslims are "over there" people who hate women and LGB. And therefore it's fine with the Dems. Exactly. Political activists and ideologists view the ability to see the world objectively as dangerous and counter productive. Objectivity is the enemy of leftist ideologists. The only goal is winning and advancing the cause. So subjectivity is employed. So yeah Nazis or Islamic terrorists are bad but if supporting them helps advance the cause they can hold their noses and support them and make up some good sounding rationale. Just don't examine the reasoning too closely for inconsistences and fibs. And as you say, over there but not here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Entirely predictable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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