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Democracy’s Fiery Ordeal: The War in Ukraine 🇺🇦


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Interesting article on drones in the war

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/robot-wars-ukraine-puts-faith-184759449.html

No doubt, murderous Putin's best hope in Ukraine is getting the scum bug Trump elected

 

 

 

Donald Trump risks being a “loser president” if he wins November’s election and imposes a bad peace deal on Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelenskiy has said, saying it would mean the end of the US as a global “player”.

In an interview with the Guardian in Kyiv, Zelenskiy said he had “no strategy yet” for what to do if Trump returned to the White House, and that the former British prime minister Boris Johnson had approached him on his behalf.

If Trump beats Joe Biden, he is widely expected to cut off US military support to Ukraine. Last year Trump boasted he could end the war in “24 hours”.

Trump’s aides have previously sketched out a possible plan that would involve giving Ukraine’s eastern regions to Russia, as well as Crimea. But Zelenskiy made clear that “Ukrainians would not put up with that”. Nor would they accept a Russian “ultimatum” that forced Ukraine to abandon integration with Europe and future membership of Nato, he said

 

.https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jun/02/zelenskiy-trump-risks-being-loser-president-if-he-imposes-bad-deal-on-ukraine

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1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

Interesting article on drones in the war

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/robot-wars-ukraine-puts-faith-184759449.html

No doubt, murderous Putin's best hope in Ukraine is getting the scum bug Trump elected

 

 

 

Donald Trump risks being a “loser president” if he wins November’s election and imposes a bad peace deal on Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelenskiy has said, saying it would mean the end of the US as a global “player”.

In an interview with the Guardian in Kyiv, Zelenskiy said he had “no strategy yet” for what to do if Trump returned to the White House, and that the former British prime minister Boris Johnson had approached him on his behalf.

If Trump beats Joe Biden, he is widely expected to cut off US military support to Ukraine. Last year Trump boasted he could end the war in “24 hours”.

Trump’s aides have previously sketched out a possible plan that would involve giving Ukraine’s eastern regions to Russia, as well as Crimea. But Zelenskiy made clear that “Ukrainians would not put up with that”. Nor would they accept a Russian “ultimatum” that forced Ukraine to abandon integration with Europe and future membership of Nato, he said

 

.https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jun/02/zelenskiy-trump-risks-being-loser-president-if-he-imposes-bad-deal-on-ukraine

Why won’t you address what Tenhigh brought up earlier? Does it make you uncomfortable?

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Russian news saying they could drop 30+ nukes on Poland to eliminate the Polish people and language. Claim they do not believe the US would defend the Poland or the Baltic States so they can just take them. 
 

 

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12 hours ago, Tenhigh said:

 

 

 

 

Am I really the first person to fact check you in this megathread?  What has made you so violently change your tune here, Tibsy? Why all the blood lust 10 years later?

 

Or is it that you feel guilty about your earlier position?

@Tiberius

 

Tibs, where u @?

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15 hours ago, ChiGoose said:

Russian news saying they could drop 30+ nukes on Poland to eliminate the Polish people and language. Claim they do not believe the US would defend the Poland or the Baltic States so they can just take them. 
 

 

 

Makes you wonder.

 

Sweden, Poland, Finland, Japan, Korea...these are all countries that are our Allies and could perform Nuclear breakouts in a short length of time.

 

Russia has done the Lord's work in convincing Europe that it is a credible threat, and that Europe needs to re-arm and re-evaluate its security decisions.

 

If strategic mastermind Donald Trump wins the election and pulls us out of NATO. Or curtails our participation in NATO to such a degree no one trusts us, you'd have to think that Nuclear non-proliferation takes it right up the ass. No nuclear armed country has ever been invaded.

 

If Poland doesn't trust us to get nuked to defend Warsaw, then the only way to defend Warsaw is with Polish nukes. Additional Nuclear powers don't add up to a safer human race, even if they do mean safer countries.

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On 6/3/2024 at 3:43 PM, ChiGoose said:

Russian news saying they could drop 30+ nukes on Poland to eliminate the Polish people and language. Claim they do not believe the US would defend the Poland or the Baltic States so they can just take them. 
 

 

They've been prepping for war for some time and we've armed them to the teeth.  Poland would absolutely crush Russia right now, Belarus too.

As long as they don't start heading west because their maps are upside down they'll do fine.

 

Belarus has been antagonizing them too (Putins orders).  I've always wondered what would happen if Poland decided to help Ukraine if not attacked first. 

 

The nuke stuff is just ramped up rhetoric.   Curious though why, and why now.  Attacks into Russia?  F16s?  Probably the former.

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1 hour ago, Tenhigh said:

How does @Tiberius reconcile this with his current stance? It was quite shocking to read...

 

Remember back when Barry said Russia wasn't a geopolitical threat?  And then just 2 years later...

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2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

I guess I was mistaken. No more. Slava Unkrani!

 

What else you got?

Thanks for replying.   What caused you to do a complete 180?

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