Perspective in These Times

[JaCrispy]

6 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Economy, health, public service etc 

People have been working the whole time...we learned that society actually never needed to be shut down to begin with...

 

Wanna beat covid? Everyone just needs to get it as soon as possible instead of dragging it out longer, allowing it to keep mutating imo...👍

 

 

Edited November 30, 2021 by JaCrispy

[Tiberius]

7 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

People have been working the whole time...we learned that society actually never needed to be shut down to begin with...

 

Wanna beat covid? Everyone just needs to get it as soon as possible instead of dragging it out longer, allowing it to keep mutating imo...👍

 

 

Your logic is seriously flawed. But that’s what political blunders do. Society before the vaccine needed shut down, now it doesn’t, it just needs people getting vaccinated. 

[Big Blitz]

14 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Trumpism is the same thing, only real. You guys are a threat to Democracy 

And spread more of the virus. You should stfu 

 

 

Are Florida schools a hot bed of the spread?  Should be easy to know.  I'm guessing it would be a national story 24/7 and the forcing of DeSantis to step down if they were.   

 

 

Still waiting for your evidence comrade.  

[Tiberius]

22 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Are Florida schools a hot bed of the spread?  Should be easy to know.  I'm guessing it would be a national story 24/7 and the forcing of DeSantis to step down if they were.   

 

 

Still waiting for your evidence comrade.  

I gave you the evidence and you

ignored it (political blunders) 

https://kjzz.org/content/1732199/rising-covid-19-cases-among-unvaccinated-arizonans-causing-more-infections-among
 

man, those unvaccinated spreaders! Ignorance kills 

[JaCrispy]

35 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Your logic is seriously flawed. But that’s what political blunders do. Society before the vaccine needed shut down, now it doesn’t, it just needs people getting vaccinated. 

Well vaccine is certainly 1 form of treatment...but now there are several others as well...so it’s not the only way to go if people so choose- and that’s a major point- freedom of choice...

Edited November 30, 2021 by JaCrispy

[Big Blitz]

2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

I gave you the evidence and you

ignored it (political blunders) 

https://kjzz.org/content/1732199/rising-covid-19-cases-among-unvaccinated-arizonans-causing-more-infections-among
 

man, those unvaccinated spreaders! Ignorance kills 

 

 

 

So you admit "the vaccinated" (lol) are spreading it. Correct?

 

 

Per your own link:

 

 

Months after the first vaccines were administered, immunity is beginning to wane for some vaccinated people, which could be contributing to the increase in breakthrough infections, said Dr. Joe Gerald with the University of Arizona's Zuckerman College of Public Health. Gerald said vaccines still effectively protect against serious illness or death after several months but may not provide enough protection to stop the virus from spreading altogether.  

 

“Now we’re at a point where it’s looking like pretty much everybody is going to need [a booster shot] to achieve the level of immunity necessary to keep this tamped down," Gerald said.

 

 

 

 

 

Lololol nice new metric:  "Tamped down."

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, JaCrispy said:

Well vaccine is certainly 1 form of treatment...but now there are several others as well...so it’s not the only way to go if people do choose- and that’s a major point- freedom of choice...

Should drunk driving be a freedom of choice, too? 

[JaCrispy]

18 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Should drunk driving be a freedom of choice, too? 

You keep missing the point my friend- YOU taking the vaccine doesn’t protect other people...I realize a lot people are going to need some deprogramming of all the disinformation they’ve been fed the last 2 years...but it’s very important you start to accept that fact, or all of your vaccine arguments are going to be based on a false premise...👍

 

 

Edited December 1, 2021 by JaCrispy

[Big Blitz]

3 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

You keep missing the point my friend- vaccines don’t protect other people...I realize a lot people are going to need some deprogramming of all the disinformation they’ve been fed the last 2 years...but it’s very important you start to accept that fact, or all of your vaccine arguments are going to be based on a flawed premise...👍

 

 

 

 

I guarantee he doesn't even take the full 20 seconds to wash his hands.  

 

Disgraceful. 

[716er]

4 hours ago, Westside said:

He spoke the truth, you speak garbage.

 

[Tiberius]

5 hours ago, JaCrispy said:

You keep missing the point my friend- vaccines don’t protect other people...I realize a lot people are going to need some deprogramming of all the disinformation they’ve been fed the last 2 years...but it’s very important you start to accept that fact, or all of your vaccine arguments are going to be based on a false premise...👍

 

 

Michigan hospitals 80% full. 

 

"It's almost exclusively unvaccinated," Dr. Matthew Sims, director of infectious disease research for Beaumont Health, told The Detroit News during a Sunday break of caring for COVID-19 patients. "And I can tell you the numbers that we've seen by me and my partners in the last couple of days have gone up."

 

https://www.hastingstribune.com/ap/agriculture/michigan-hits-new-record-for-adult-covid-19-hospitalizations-80-of-beds-full/article_87a6731a-09f6-59f5-8370-af5589ad681b.html

 

And the unvaccinated are like Typhoid Marys walking around spreading sickness and death 

[Big Blitz]

2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Michigan hospitals 80% full. 

 

"It's almost exclusively unvaccinated," Dr. Matthew Sims, director of infectious disease research for Beaumont Health, told The Detroit News during a Sunday break of caring for COVID-19 patients. "And I can tell you the numbers that we've seen by me and my partners in the last couple of days have gone up."

 

https://www.hastingstribune.com/ap/agriculture/michigan-hits-new-record-for-adult-covid-19-hospitalizations-80-of-beds-full/article_87a6731a-09f6-59f5-8370-af5589ad681b.html

 

And the unvaccinated are like Typhoid Marys walking around spreading sickness and death 

 

 

Dupe. Useful idiot.  The Big Lie has been in the works since the summer even they confirmed that for periods of time the vaccinated, who get super special access to venues soon to be dead, are as contagious as unvaccinated:

 

The vaccinated are the super spreaders.  They've been covering it up - that explains the boom in cases by July.  And it explains them right now.   

 

Letting the vaccinated go do whatever they want with special status is the problem.....see below the tweets

 

 

 

 

And here is a socialist buddy of yours:

 

 

 

 

 

Delta infections among vaccinated likely contagious; Lambda variant shows vaccine resistance in lab

 

In one Wisconsin county, after Delta became predominant, researchers analyzed viral loads on nose-and-throat swab samples obtained when patients were first diagnosed. They found similar viral loads in vaccinated and unvaccinated patients, with levels often high enough to allow shedding of infectious virus. "A key assumption" underlying current regulations aimed at slowing COVID-19 transmission "is that those who are vaccinated are at very low risk of spreading the virus to others," said study coauthor Katarina Grande of Public Health Madison & Dane County in Madison, Wisconsin.

 

The findings, however, indicate "that vaccinated people should take steps to prevent the spread of the COVID-19 virus to others," she added. In a separate study from Singapore, researchers found that while Delta viral loads were similar in vaccinated and unvaccinated patients, the viral loads decreased faster in the vaccinated group.

 

The Wisconsin and Singapore studies were both posted on Saturday on medRxiv ahead of peer review.

 

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/delta-infections-among-vaccinated-likely-contagious-lambda-variant-shows-vaccine-2021-08-02/

 

 

 

More:

 

 

C.D.C. Internal Report Calls Delta Variant as Contagious as Chickenpox

 

Infections in vaccinated Americans are rare, compared with those in unvaccinated people, the document said. But when they occur, vaccinated people may spread the virus just as easily.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/30/health/covid-cdc-delta-masks.html

 

 

 

You.  Are.  A.  Dupe..  

 

Edited December 1, 2021 by Big Blitz

[716er]

Lots of Hollys and Helens here.

 

[Big Blitz]

13 minutes ago, 716er said:

Lots of Hollys and Helens here.

 

 

 

Oh cool you're on team eradication now.  

 

Good for you.

 

It's worse then being a Detroit Lion fan and as delusional as being a Browns fan.  

[Big Blitz]

Like we told y'all from the beginning and we've been right on everything.

 

It never ends.  

 

These idiots will maintain protocols till the virus is eradicated which will be never.

 

 

 

This isn't even a plan.  It's evil cowardice completely devoid of logic and common sense.  

 

They are inherently evil people that hate freedom, hate the country, but love telling you what to do.  

[BillStime]

 

[Tiberius]

9 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Dupe. Useful idiot.  The Big Lie has been in the works since the summer even they confirmed that for periods of time the vaccinated, who get super special access to venues soon to be dead, are as contagious as unvaccinated:

 

The vaccinated are the super spreaders.  They've been covering it up - that explains the boom in cases by July.  And it explains them right now.   

 

Letting the vaccinated go do whatever they want with special status is the problem.....see below the tweets

 

 

 

 

And here is a socialist buddy of yours:

 

 

 

 

 

Delta infections among vaccinated likely contagious; Lambda variant shows vaccine resistance in lab

 

In one Wisconsin county, after Delta became predominant, researchers analyzed viral loads on nose-and-throat swab samples obtained when patients were first diagnosed. They found similar viral loads in vaccinated and unvaccinated patients, with levels often high enough to allow shedding of infectious virus. "A key assumption" underlying current regulations aimed at slowing COVID-19 transmission "is that those who are vaccinated are at very low risk of spreading the virus to others," said study coauthor Katarina Grande of Public Health Madison & Dane County in Madison, Wisconsin.

 

The findings, however, indicate "that vaccinated people should take steps to prevent the spread of the COVID-19 virus to others," she added. In a separate study from Singapore, researchers found that while Delta viral loads were similar in vaccinated and unvaccinated patients, the viral loads decreased faster in the vaccinated group.

 

The Wisconsin and Singapore studies were both posted on Saturday on medRxiv ahead of peer review.

 

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/delta-infections-among-vaccinated-likely-contagious-lambda-variant-shows-vaccine-2021-08-02/

 

 

 

More:

 

 

C.D.C. Internal Report Calls Delta Variant as Contagious as Chickenpox

 

Infections in vaccinated Americans are rare, compared with those in unvaccinated people, the document said. But when they occur, vaccinated people may spread the virus just as easily.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/30/health/covid-cdc-delta-masks.html

 

 

 

You.  Are.  A.  Dupe..  

 

So what you idiots are doing is trying to screw up the country by getting sick. Just to try and get Trump back. You guys really are a mindless cult 

[Big Blitz]

9 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

So what you idiots are doing is trying to screw up the country by getting sick. 

 

 

[Tiberius]

4 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Most of the sick are unvaccinated 

[SoCal Deek]

2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Most of the sick are unvaccinated 

Tibs…I seriously hate to jump into this but why do you care? If you’re vaccinated, as I am, I’m not really concerned about those who choose not to be. In fact, I never even think about it.