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Official narrative:  Un-vaccinated patients are overwhelming the US hosptial system.  True or False.   Check the numbers from Johns Hopkins hospital ICU and Inpatient numbers and rates on an

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The problem with having a free society is when that pesky freedom stuff gets in the way of telling people what to do!  Thus the need to fundamentally transform America. 

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  On 11/30/2021 at 4:26 PM, Tiberius said:

For the common good 

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How? 

 

To slow the spread?  To eradicate what can't be eradicated?  

 

 

Is my alpha male extremely toxic self getting the shot preventing me from getting it and spreading it to the betas?

 

Yes or no?

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  On 11/30/2021 at 5:04 PM, Tiberius said:

Yes, because of the unvaccinated 

 

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Thats a lie.  Where is your data for that?  

 

Real world data says vaccinated spread it. Near fully vaccinated countries or states are seeing surges of cases.  

 

 

If your goal is slow the spread (hahaha) why aren't we locked down?  Don't you care about saving lives?

 

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  On 11/30/2021 at 4:26 PM, Tiberius said:

For the common good 

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What's you definition of the common good?  Is it something like The Borg on Star Trek?  A collection of individuals assembled in some hive like society all surrendering their personal identities, opinions, desires, and beliefs for the "common good". 

Does anyone actually believe the government forcing people to act or not to act in a certain way is in any way equivalent to a scenario where the common good is the objective?  You've got to be out of your mind to believe that.    

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  On 11/30/2021 at 5:08 PM, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Thats a lie.  Where is your data for that?  

 

Real world data says vaccinated spread it. Near fully vaccinated countries or states are seeing surges of cases.  

 

 

If your goal is slow the spread (hahaha) why aren't we locked down?  Don't you care about saving lives?

 

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No, the unvaccinated are spreaders. 

  On 11/30/2021 at 5:10 PM, All_Pro_Bills said:

What's you definition of the common good?  Is it something like The Borg on Star Trek?  A collection of individuals assembled in some hive like society all surrendering their personal identities, opinions, desires, and beliefs for the "common good". 

Does anyone actually believe the government forcing people to act or not to act in a certain way is in any way equivalent to a scenario where the common good is the objective?  You've got to be out of your mind to believe that.    

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Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness 

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  On 11/30/2021 at 5:12 PM, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Wrong again 

 

 

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Philip Bump reports: “The vast majority of those now dying of the coronavirus were unvaccinated, a group that’s disproportionately Republican. Florida has now seen more than 61,000 coronavirus deaths, about 284 for every 100,000 residents. New York, by comparison, has seen 56,645 deaths, 280 per 100,000 residents. One year ago, before the vaccines, New York’s per capita toll was nearly twice Florida’s.”

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  On 11/30/2021 at 5:35 PM, Tiberius said:

Philip Bump reports: “The vast majority of those now dying of the coronavirus were unvaccinated, a group that’s disproportionately Republican. Florida has now seen more than 61,000 coronavirus deaths, about 284 for every 100,000 residents. New York, by comparison, has seen 56,645 deaths, 280 per 100,000 residents. One year ago, before the vaccines, New York’s per capita toll was nearly twice Florida’s.”

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You are confusing your CNN talking points.  

 

This has absolutely nothing to do with slowing the spread that can't happen.  

 

What are mandate free Florida’s numbers vs New York or Michigan?   

 

 

 

Try again.  Convince us all we are slowing the spread...

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  On 11/30/2021 at 4:26 PM, Tiberius said:

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Common good of what?

 

For the thousandth time, the CDC has already stated the shot does not stop you from getting or spreading covid...And Fauci just stated the vaccines won’t ever eradicate the virus...so, if you get the shot, you’re not protecting anyone but yourself...

 

This has been common knowledge for quite some time...always amazes me when I hear people say that getting the shot protects society...No, it does not...Some of the highest infection rates around the world are countries and cities that that are highly vaccinated...

 

If the only way for you to be protected is by someone else taking the vaccine, we’re in trouble...so everyone just needs to protect themselves as best you can, if you’re scared, and leave everyone else th hell alone- because it doesn’t do a damn thing...😉👍

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  On 11/30/2021 at 5:58 PM, JaCrispy said:

Common good of what?

 

For the thousandth time, the CDC has already stated the shot does not stop you from getting or spreading covid...And Fauci just stated the vaccines won’t ever eradicate the virus...so, if you get the shot, you’re not protecting anyone but yourself...

 

This has been common knowledge for quite some time...always amazes me when I hear people say that getting the shot protects society...No, it does not...Some of the highest infection rates around the world are countries and cities that that are highly vaccinated...

 

If the only way for you to be protected is by someone else taking the vaccine, we’re in trouble...so everyone just needs to protect themselves as best you can, and leave everyone else th hell alone- because it doesn’t do a damn thing...👍

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  On 11/30/2021 at 5:58 PM, JaCrispy said:

Common good of what?

 

For the thousandth time, the CDC has already stated the shot does not stop you from getting or spreading covid...And Fauci just stated the vaccines won’t ever eradicate the virus...so, if you get the shot, you’re not protecting anyone but yourself...

 

This has been common knowledge for quite some time...always amazes me when I hear people say that getting the shot protects society...No, it does not...Some of the highest infection rates around the world are countries and cities that that are highly vaccinated...

 

If the only way for you to be protected is by someone else taking the vaccine, we’re in trouble...so everyone just needs to protect themselves as best you can, and leave everyone else th hell alone- because it doesn’t do a damn thing...👍

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If they cared about the common good the kids would take the face diapers off

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