Italian Bills Posted November 28, 2021 Posted November 28, 2021 Here we are ! After this last Pats win, i want to compare the Bills and the Pats in every aspect and see what you think about. - HC: pats - QB: Bills - RB: pats (with Brida maybe even) - OL: pats - DL: bills - WR corps: Bills - CORNERS & SAFETIES: Bills - KICKER: Bills - SP TEAM: even ? Maybe i forgot to consider some other aspect, if so feel free to add or correct me. That’s the way i see things in this next matchup. To me, the most important thing McDermott and Daboll have to do, is to find a way to give Josh more time to throw and involve Knox much more, because to me Knox is not at Gronk or Kelce level, but to me is a very good TE. Quote
GunnerBill Posted November 28, 2021 Posted November 28, 2021 On 11/28/2021 at 9:41 PM, Italian Bills said: Here we are ! After this last Pats win, i want to compare the Bills and the Pats in every aspect and see what you think about. - HC: pats - QB: Bills - RB: pats (with Brida maybe even) - OL: pats - DL: bills - WR corps: Bills - CORNERS & SAFETIES: Bills - KICKER: Bills - SP TEAM: even ? Maybe i forgot to consider some other aspect, if so feel free to add or correct me. That’s the way i see things in this next matchup. To me, the most important thing McDermott and Daboll have to do, is to find a way to give Josh more time to throw and involve Knox much more, because to me Knox is not at Gronk or Kelce level, but to me is a very good TE. Expand I think Dline and Secondary are pretty even and down Tre I might even edge towards New England in the secondary. 5 4 Quote
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 28, 2021 Posted November 28, 2021 On 11/28/2021 at 9:41 PM, Italian Bills said: Here we are ! After this last Pats win, i want to compare the Bills and the Pats in every aspect and see what you think about. - HC: pats - QB: Bills - RB: pats (with Brida maybe even) - OL: pats - DL: bills - WR corps: Bills - CORNERS & SAFETIES: Bills - KICKER: Bills - SP TEAM: even ? Maybe i forgot to consider some other aspect, if so feel free to add or correct me. That’s the way i see things in this next matchup. To me, the most important thing McDermott and Daboll have to do, is to find a way to give Josh more time to throw and involve Knox much more, because to me Knox is not at Gronk or Kelce level, but to me is a very good TE. Expand I think the most important thing is to avoid mistakes as much as possible. If the mistakes are close to even we are the better team and should win. 2 Quote
ClemsonBills Posted November 28, 2021 Posted November 28, 2021 Right now, I would lean with Pats dline. They have been solid. 2 1 1 1 Quote
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 28, 2021 Posted November 28, 2021 On 11/28/2021 at 9:47 PM, GunnerBill said: I think Dline and Secondary are pretty even and down Tre I might even edge towards New England in the secondary. Expand This 2 Quote
CSBill Posted November 28, 2021 Posted November 28, 2021 On 11/28/2021 at 9:41 PM, Italian Bills said: Here we are ! After this last Pats win, i want to compare the Bills and the Pats in every aspect and see what you think about. - HC: pats - QB: Bills - RB: pats (with Brida maybe even) - OL: pats - DL: bills - WR corps: Bills - CORNERS & SAFETIES: Bills - KICKER: Bills - SP TEAM: even ? Maybe i forgot to consider some other aspect, if so feel free to add or correct me. That’s the way i see things in this next matchup. To me, the most important thing McDermott and Daboll have to do, is to find a way to give Josh more time to throw and involve Knox much more, because to me Knox is not at Gronk or Kelce level, but to me is a very good TE. Expand Good thoughts, but I think I would rate the Pats DL over ours. Also, TE is a push. The question in all these is to what degree is any unit better than the other? For example their DL being slightly better than ours does not outweigh the vast advantage we have at QB and WR. Or, WRs against DBs? OL against DL? etc. 2 Quote
PatsFanNH Posted November 28, 2021 Posted November 28, 2021 On 11/28/2021 at 9:41 PM, Italian Bills said: Here we are ! After this last Pats win, i want to compare the Bills and the Pats in every aspect and see what you think about. - HC: pats - QB: Bills - RB: pats (with Brida maybe even) - OL: pats - DL: bills - WR corps: Bills - CORNERS & SAFETIES: Bills - KICKER: Bills - SP TEAM: even ? Maybe i forgot to consider some other aspect, if so feel free to add or correct me. That’s the way i see things in this next matchup. To me, the most important thing McDermott and Daboll have to do, is to find a way to give Josh more time to throw and involve Knox much more, because to me Knox is not at Gronk or Kelce level, but to me is a very good TE. Expand CB/Safety is even maybe Pats with your top CB out. Kicker — again I’d go even Folk been amazing.. RB — Pats even w Brieda. but the question I have is both D weakness is the run. The Pats will stick with it, will the Bills? Today was an example how bad the Pats run D can be. 1 1 1 Quote
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 28, 2021 Posted November 28, 2021 On 11/28/2021 at 9:48 PM, ClemsonBills said: Right now, I would lean with Pats dline. They have been solid. Expand I think this brings up a valid point overall. The Pats are overall a solid, well coached team. They epitomize the ‘never too high, never too low, don’t ride the rollercoaster” philosophy The Bills (including Allen) speak that philosophy, but their play on the field week to week is Screaming Eagle (in the roller coaster sense). On average, I would say they’re a better team than the Pats but that average speaks to the cartoon where the shot pattern is to the right and the left of the duck, and the caption reads “on average, the duck is dead”. Allen can be all-world brilliant. He can also make boneheaded throws that put the ball into avoidable Harm’s Way at times when he would arguably be better served to take a check down, now it’s a shorter third down (vs. a pick and a COP) Of course, Mac Jones from what I’ve seen has not been made to pay as much as he could for his mistakes and his risky throws so 1 2 1 Quote
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 28, 2021 Posted November 28, 2021 On 11/28/2021 at 9:53 PM, PatsFanNH said: CB/Safety is even maybe Pats with your top CB out. Kicker — again I’d go even Folk been amazing.. RB — Pats even w Brieda. but the question I have is both D weakness is the run. The Pats will stick with it, will the Bills? Today was an example how bad the Pats run D can be. Expand No way on the kicker's being even 2 Quote
PatsFanNH Posted November 28, 2021 Posted November 28, 2021 On 11/28/2021 at 10:00 PM, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: No way on the kicker's being even Expand Folk just doesn’t miss except for extreme long Kicks. Quote
GunnerBill Posted November 28, 2021 Posted November 28, 2021 On 11/28/2021 at 9:53 PM, PatsFanNH said: Kicker — again I’d go even Folk been amazing.. Expand Nah mate. Tyler Bass is money. He is the only starting kicker in the league to be 100% on PATs. He and Folk have both missed 3 FGs (all long range), but Bass-o-matic has the edge on PATs. 3 2 Quote
hemma Posted November 28, 2021 Posted November 28, 2021 On 11/28/2021 at 10:05 PM, PatsFanNH said: Folk just doesn’t miss except for extreme long Kicks. Expand Do the 4 extra points he missed fall into the ‘extreme long kick’ category? 5 Quote
Italian Bills Posted November 28, 2021 Author Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) What i saw this season till now about Allen, is that he seems always not comfortable like he was last year. I mean, he doesn’t give me the feeling that he’s always in control. He had lot of picks, poor throws, like if he was hesitant on what to do. Maybe because our weak OL, maybe because with Diggs, Sander and Bease all together on the field, he is not sure who to hit. I don’t really know… maybe i’m totally wrong, but this is what i see. That said, i still believe Josh is a top 5 QB without question. To me Bease is a beast, one of the best slot receiver in the nfl, Wes Welker level and we have Knox that is a heck of TE… so use them more in short routes ! Edited November 28, 2021 by Italian Bills Quote
PatsFanNH Posted November 28, 2021 Posted November 28, 2021 On 11/28/2021 at 10:11 PM, hemma said: Do the 4 extra points he missed fall into the ‘extreme long kick’ category? Expand No but he has hit 10 more FG than your kicker.. thus why I said even. Quote
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 28, 2021 Posted November 28, 2021 On 11/28/2021 at 9:41 PM, Italian Bills said: Here we are ! After this last Pats win, i want to compare the Bills and the Pats in every aspect and see what you think about. - HC: pats - QB: Bills - RB: pats (with Brida maybe even) - OL: pats - DL: bills - WR corps: Bills - CORNERS & SAFETIES: Bills - KICKER: Bills - SP TEAM: even ? Maybe i forgot to consider some other aspect, if so feel free to add or correct me. That’s the way i see things in this next matchup. To me, the most important thing McDermott and Daboll have to do, is to find a way to give Josh more time to throw and involve Knox much more, because to me Knox is not at Gronk or Kelce level, but to me is a very good TE. Expand You forgot LB - HC: Edge Pats - QB: Edge Bills - RB: Slight edge Pats - OL: Edge Pats - DL: Slight Edge Pats - LB: Edge Bills - WR corps: Big Edge Bills - CORNERS & SAFETIES: Slight Edge Bills - KICKER: Edge Bills - SP TEAM: Even 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted November 28, 2021 Posted November 28, 2021 On 11/28/2021 at 10:14 PM, PatsFanNH said: No but he has hit 10 more FG than your kicker.. thus why I said even. Expand I mean isn't that just that the Pats have asked him to try more? Basically they are both guaranteed from inside the 50. Folk has been a top 5 kicker this year. Bass has been the best in the NFL. On 11/28/2021 at 10:15 PM, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: You forgot LB - HC: Edge Pats - QB: Edge Bills - RB: Slight edge Pats - OL: Edge Pats - DL: Slight Edge Pats - LB: Edge Bills - WR corps: Big Edge Bills - CORNERS & SAFETIES: Slight Edge Bills - KICKER: Edge Bills - SP TEAM: Even Expand The oline isn't "edge" Patriots. That is a landslide Patriots. 3 1 2 1 Quote
PatsFanNH Posted November 28, 2021 Posted November 28, 2021 On 11/28/2021 at 10:15 PM, GunnerBill said: I mean isn't that just that the Pats have asked him to try more? Basically they are both guaranteed from inside the 50. Folk has been a top 5 kicker this year. Bass has been the best in the NFL. Expand If it comes down to kickers both teams are in trouble. Also if both are too 5 it’s a push IMO.. mind you I expect a good close game with either team having a chance to win at the end. 1 1 Quote
Italian Bills Posted November 28, 2021 Author Posted November 28, 2021 On 11/28/2021 at 10:15 PM, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: You forgot LB - HC: Edge Pats - QB: Edge Bills - RB: Slight edge Pats - OL: Edge Pats - DL: Slight Edge Pats - LB: Edge Bills - WR corps: Big Edge Bills - CORNERS & SAFETIES: Slight Edge Bills - KICKER: Edge Bills - SP TEAM: Even Expand Thanks for your correction. DL Pats ? Even with our full healthy DL ? Quote
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 28, 2021 Posted November 28, 2021 On 11/28/2021 at 10:18 PM, Italian Bills said: Thanks for your correction. DL Pats ? Even with our full healthy DL ? Expand I think Judon gives them a slight edge 1 2 Quote
Italian Bills Posted November 28, 2021 Author Posted November 28, 2021 On 11/28/2021 at 10:18 PM, PatsFanNH said: If it comes down to kickers both teams are in trouble. Also if both are too 5 it’s a push IMO.. mind you I expect a good close game with either team having a chance to win at the end. Expand Your honest prediction ? Gimme your cut. Mine is 65/35 Bills. 1 Quote
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