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I'm not one to complain too much about officials calls.  While they are bad an inconsistent, think they balance out over the course of the year.  Certainly in the eyes of the home town fans that's never true.  But do agree that one should have been called as no worse than the one called on Oliver.

 

Could be as the article mentioned, the official was looking downfield at where the pass went as that seemed to be his main focus.

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8 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

I'm not one to complain too much about officials calls.  While they are bad an inconsistent, think they balance out over the course of the year.  Certainly in the eyes of the home town fans that's never true.  But do agree that one should have been called as no worse than the one called on Oliver.

 

Could be as the article mentioned, the official was looking downfield at where the pass went as that seemed to be his main focus.

Of course they, more or less, balance out over a game and/or season!  

 

Won't stop a certain Bills fan contingent from bitching about them in EVERY GAME.

 

Then you have the contingent that wants to fire the OC, whoever that may be, after every game!  

 

Poor Brian Daboll....

 

 

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There should have been a taunting call, and a roughing the passer call on that play.

 

But the refs were consistent and kept the flag in their pockets for both teams all night (as much as possible, anyways). And it definitely made for a better game. Since they were pretty fair about it, I'm fine with no calls there.

 

I wont judge them compared to how other crews call games. We know NFL officiating is an absolute mess in general. But I'm fine with the way Thursday night went.

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9 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

I'm not one to complain too much about officials calls.  While they are bad an inconsistent, think they balance out over the course of the year.  Certainly in the eyes of the home town fans that's never true.  But do agree that one should have been called as no worse than the one called on Oliver.

 

Could be as the article mentioned, the official was looking downfield at where the pass went as that seemed to be his main focus.

Agree, for as much as we complain about officiating calls that don't go the Bills' way, we definitely get calls in our favor that tend to go unnoticed.  I still maintain that, when we played the Chiefs, on Buffalo's last TD drive, when Josh threw the INT that got called back due to roughing the passer, that was a terrible call in our favor.  That was a big play given that the Chiefs would have had the ball at around midfield when it was still a two-possession ball game.

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The only thing I will say in relation to this, is that Allen generally, doesn't appear to get the same treatment when it comes to 'roughing the passer', as many other QBs seem to.

 

Now, Josh is a big unit, and he shrugs off a lot of stuff, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be called regardless.

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I loved that they didn’t call all this nonsense. If I had a gripe, they should have let the Oliver one go too— he just nailed him in the chest as the ball was released.  
 

the QB hit stuff and taunting calls are getting so annoying. The last think I want to see is another Land Clark game, where they are calling this every other play. 

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I’m not sure about that.

 

in 2019 and 2020, Allen almost perfected getting “cheap” roughing the passer calls.

 

He was masterful at, scrambling to his right, throwing the ball off-balance, and if a defender just put a hand on his shoulder pad, he was flinging himself to the ground and drawing the Roughing the Passer.

 

Its not pretty to say…

 

But

 

Allen is sort of a Flopper.  And a bad actor at that when he does it.

 

it had me laughing when the Saints defender talked to Allen face-to-face and suddenly Allen SNAPPED his head back like he just got a brick to the face.  😂 

 

Now…should some hits on him draw yellow?  ABSOLUTELY.


But again…some things working against Allen.

 

1.) He’s Big (like Cam Newton, Refs aren’t always bailing out the big ones.)

 

2.) He may have a little reputation as a Flopper.

 

3.) He has that “b*tc*ing” to the ref after every hit mentality that probably isn’t going over well.

 

At this point…he’s not working the refs particularly smart or effective.

 

 

 

18 minutes ago, Buddo said:

The only thing I will say in relation to this, is that Allen generally, doesn't appear to get the same treatment when it comes to 'roughing the passer', as many other QBs seem to.

 

Now, Josh is a big unit, and he shrugs off a lot of stuff, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be called regardless.

 

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46 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

Of course they, more or less, balance out over a game and/or season!  

 

Won't stop a certain Bills fan contingent from bitching about them in EVERY GAME.

 

Then you have the contingent that wants to fire the OC, whoever that may be, after every game!  

 

Poor Brian Daboll....

 

 

 

Yeah wonder if to save time, some have saved responses both praising and condemning a coach or player, depending on the week and situation, just fill in the name and post it.

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22 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said:

I’m not sure about that.

 

in 2019 and 2020, Allen almost perfected getting “cheap” roughing the passer calls.

 

He was masterful at, scrambling to his right, throwing the ball off-balance, and if a defender just put a hand on his shoulder pad, he was flinging himself to the ground and drawing the Roughing the Passer.

 

Its not pretty to say…

 

But

 

Allen is sort of a Flopper.  And a bad actor at that when he does it.

 

it had me laughing when the Saints defender talked to Allen face-to-face and suddenly Allen SNAPPED his head back like he just got a brick to the face.  😂 

 

Now…should some hits on him draw yellow?  ABSOLUTELY.


But again…some things working against Allen.

 

1.) He’s Big (like Cam Newton, Refs aren’t always bailing out the big ones.)

 

2.) He may have a little reputation as a Flopper.

 

3.) He has that “b*tc*ing” to the ref after every hit mentality that probably isn’t going over well.

 

At this point…he’s not working the refs particularly smart or effective.

 

 

 

 

 

And Brady has been bitching at the refs since he got into the league over getting looked at funny from DEs.  The NFL needs to protect all its QB's, esp. it's "marquee" ones.  This was a total failure by that ref.  And refs should be fined for missing stuff like this, but they won't, because they have a ref's union, which is totally absurd.  

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23 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said:

Allen is sort of a Flopper.  And a bad actor at that when he does it.

it had me laughing when the Saints defender talked to Allen face-to-face and suddenly Allen SNAPPED his head back like he just got a brick to the face.  😂 

3.) He has that “b*tc*ing” to the ref after every hit mentality that probably isn’t going over well.

At this point…he’s not working the refs particularly smart or effective.

 

This and this.....not gonna be a popular take on this board but it is true.  If he just would shut up and play he would be better off.

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3 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

 

And Brady has been bitching at the refs since he got into the league over getting looked at funny from DEs.  The NFL needs to protect all its QB's, esp. it's "marquee" ones.  This was a total failure by that ref.  And refs should be fined for missing stuff like this, but they won't, because they have a ref's union, which is totally absurd.  

You have to earn the right to “complain” to the refs and expect it to have an effect.

 

Thats the psychological or gamesmanship of the league/human condition.

 

 Certain players get certain calls based on who they are and what they have done.  Others need to do a little bit more work to earn that privilege.

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