Bills v. Saints Game Day Thread First Half - 11/25/21

[GunnerBill]

Just now, jcamm1966 said:

joshy looks much better 2nd half

 

He played fine first half. He just made two stupid mistakes. He has to get them out of his game again.

[Simon]

should I lock this to focus discussion or let it ride?

[Meatloaf63]

Just now, Simon said:

should I lock this to focus discussion or let it ride?

Lock it

Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

He played fine first half. He just made two stupid mistakes. He has to get them out of his game again.

1 mistake the second his arm hit hit not his fault 

[jcamm1966]

keep it up D

[Simon]

Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

He played fine first half. He just made two stupid mistakes. He has to get them out of his game again.

They weren't even stupid mistakes, imo.

One he's trying to feed his main man who he knows has hot legs tonight, the other he's getting contact on delivery.

He's been absolutely tack sharp outside those.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

7 hours ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:

Its only been 2 kicks but on both I haven't been nervous with stevenson back there

 

Still feel that way after 1 muff per 5 kicks?

[Cheektowaga Chad]

4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Still feel that way after 1 muff per 5 kicks?

Yes

The style difference in returner is what makes me feel more calm

 

Stevenson is catch the ball and go

 

Mckenzie is dance while catching the ball, dance for a second more, turn his back to the oncoming traffic, dance again and now go

 

It was one muff in his first game where he didn't even seem to panic when it happened. (Which could be very well have just been because of a lucky bounce)

[Hapless Bills Fan]

53 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:

Yes

The style difference in returner is what makes me feel more calm

 

Stevenson is catch the ball and go

 

Mckenzie is dance while catching the ball, dance for a second more, turn his back to the oncoming traffic, dance again and now go

 

It was one muff in his first game where he didn't even seem to panic when it happened. (Which could be very well have just been because of a lucky bounce)

I don’t think that’s an objectively correct description of McKenzie.  No returner who did that would be 6th in the league for PR even with a handful of long returns called back

[Cheektowaga Chad]

52 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

I don’t think that’s an objectively correct description of McKenzie.  No returner who did that would be 6th in the league for PR even with a handful of long returns called back

Never did I say that it didnt return results because McKenzie is very dangerous as a return man, but what I described is what I see when he is back there

 

But I personally wouldn't have him back there and would much rather have a guy that is a bit more simplistic for this current team(give me chris Watson baby). I don't want to give opposing teams chances at big plays on special teams. How many times has mckenzie refused to fair catch it this year because he can dance? If its more than zero its too many

 

The risk vs reward for this current bills team isn't worth it. The bills are no longer in a position where the keys to the game are "hope the defense keeps it close and hit a big play"

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

10 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:

Never did I say that it didnt return results because McKenzie is very dangerous as a return man, but what I described is what I see when he is back there

 

Well, you do you.  It's not what I see back there and it's not objectively what's on film.

 

McKenzie got benched because he committed pretty much an unforgivable act of ball security - letting the ball come loose when he tripped and fell, without someone knocking it loose and without any excuse of the ball moving unpredictably in the wind and being difficult to track.

 

In the preseason, the consensus both from coaches (by their actions) and from media watching practices and fans watching games, was that McKenzie won the job by looking more comfortable and efficient and with fewer muffs.

 

We'll see what Stevenson can do now.

[Cheektowaga Chad]

41 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Well, you do you.  It's not what I see back there and it's not objectively what's on film.

 

McKenzie got benched because he committed pretty much an unforgivable act of ball security - letting the ball come loose when he tripped and fell, without someone knocking it loose and without any excuse of the ball moving unpredictably in the wind and being difficult to track.

 

In the preseason, the consensus both from coaches (by their actions) and from media watching practices and fans watching games, was that McKenzie won the job by looking more comfortable and efficient and with fewer muffs.

 

We'll see what Stevenson can do now.

Is this true? The first game Stevenson was able to play he got the nod over mckenzie (at least the coaches part)

Edited November 26, 2021 by Cheektowaga Chad