Greg Cosell, NFL Films painted a not-so-great picture on Bills O

[zow2]

Saw Greg breaking down the Bills on TV today.  Nothing we don't already know but this is from someone who watches every piece of film...

Let's hope the Bills are fixing some of these issues.

 

Problems are:

- Lack of running game, no commitment to it whatsoever. RB's aren't good enough.

- OLine are not nearly good enough in pass protection to throw the ball as often as they want.

- Lacking explosive plays in passing game which existed last season.  If drives can't be sustained by running, Bills must have explosive plays.

- Buffalo cannot execute a viable offense if the only dimension is passing. 

- Josh Allen has to be special, every week, every play, or the Bills cannot win.  That's too much to ask, does not believe it's sustainable.  

[ChasBB]

Fair assessment.

[LittleSammy]

Unfortunately all of the competent Defensive Coordinators in the league have also determined the same thing and we are now paying the price for it.

[Dablitzkrieg]

Literally everyone  including the Bills knows this.  It's time for the oline to sack up and run the damn ball

[zow2]

A lot of the offensive issues are masked when the D gets takeaways and sets the O up in nice field position.  In a game like last week when the Bills are minus in the turnover ratio it's really brutal.  

 

Kansas City is struggling without much of a running game too, but they're winning some low scoring games.  We blew our low scoring games so far vs. Pitt and Jax.

[Augie]

He has clearly mastered the obvious. How many new starters do you think we’ll have on the OL next year? I’d put the over/under at 2.5. 

[jkeerie]

12 minutes ago, LittleSammy said:

Unfortunately all of the competent Defensive Coordinators in the league have also determined the same thing and we are now paying the price for it.

Yes...but this is where our OC has to counter with better game plans.  Josh is a sitting duck in shot gun.  Everyone knows what's coming.

[Jerome007]

16 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

Literally everyone  including the Bills knows this.  It's time for the oline to sack up and run the damn ball

Yes... but not really. Watch the Bucs, or even, gulp, a team that used to have Brady as QB.  Lots of different sweeps and quick passes, which are fast out of the QBs hands and almost equivalent to run plays. Of course with a mobile QB like Josh you can have a moving pocket as well from time to time. Even obvious straight running plays aren't predictable, like having 2 or even three(!) RB in the backfield. They make it unpredictable, so when they need the OL to pass protect for a long time, it come more as a surprise than a given. Keep the D guessing and the DLs demoralized with so many quick plays, instead of gunning for Josh every play.

 

The Bills OL is NOT built for power running like the Colts. But they also have been put out to dry way too often. All these things add up. The coaches actually did way more in the Jets game, with the FB being there a third of the time, and an extra 6th OL occasionally. In the Colts game they had 2 drives in the 1st half! And by then they were behind too much. They showed in that Jets game they were willing to adjust. Do it more!

 

Yes the Bills have to adjust, for sure. But just saying "run the ball" will mean a lot of 2nd and 9...

Edited November 24, 2021 by Jerome007

[Big Blitz]

12 minutes ago, Augie said:

He has clearly mastered the obvious. How many new starters do you think we’ll have on the OL next year? I’d put the over/under at 2.5. 

 

 

That's the oline alone. 

 

Then RB.  

 

And maybe a new WR 2/3

[dave mcbride]

39 minutes ago, zow2 said:

Saw Greg breaking down the Bills on TV today.  Nothing we don't already know but this is from someone who watches every piece of film...

Let's hope the Bills are fixing some of these issues.

 

Problems are:

- Lack of running game, no commitment to it whatsoever. RB's aren't good enough.

- OLine are not nearly good enough in pass protection to throw the ball as often as they want.

- Lacking explosive plays in passing game which existed last season.  If drives can't be sustained by running, Bills must have explosive plays.

- Buffalo cannot execute a viable offense if the only dimension is passing. 

- Josh Allen has to be special, every week, every play, or the Bills cannot win.  That's too much to ask, does not believe it's sustainable.  

This sounds very accurate to me. Can't wait to see him break it down in more detail. He's terrific.

[strive_for_five_guy]

BOLD PREDICTION:  The Bills offense is going to thrive playing in the dome tomorrow night….

[LABILLBACKER]

All true. What 99% of fans are already aware of. One dimensional with little or no RB/OL talent. Hoping Josh can run around like Superman and do everything which he can't anymore. Defenses who ALL know how to stop us. Stubborn coaches who don't make the adjustments. Soft.....

.....did I miss anything?

[Scott7975]

46 minutes ago, zow2 said:

Saw Greg breaking down the Bills on TV today.  Nothing we don't already know but this is from someone who watches every piece of film...

Let's hope the Bills are fixing some of these issues.

 

Problems are:

- Lack of running game, no commitment to it whatsoever. RB's aren't good enough.

- OLine are not nearly good enough in pass protection to throw the ball as often as they want.

- Lacking explosive plays in passing game which existed last season.  If drives can't be sustained by running, Bills must have explosive plays.

- Buffalo cannot execute a viable offense if the only dimension is passing. 

- Josh Allen has to be special, every week, every play, or the Bills cannot win.  That's too much to ask, does not believe it's sustainable.  

 

Sounds about right to me

[Niagara Dude]

51 minutes ago, zow2 said:

Saw Greg breaking down the Bills on TV today.  Nothing we don't already know but this is from someone who watches every piece of film...

Let's hope the Bills are fixing some of these issues.

 

Problems are:

- Lack of running game, no commitment to it whatsoever. RB's aren't good enough.

- OLine are not nearly good enough in pass protection to throw the ball as often as they want.

- Lacking explosive plays in passing game which existed last season.  If drives can't be sustained by running, Bills must have explosive plays.

- Buffalo cannot execute a viable offense if the only dimension is passing. 

- Josh Allen has to be special, every week, every play, or the Bills cannot win.  That's too much to ask, does not believe it's sustainable.  

 RB's aren't good enough. YUP!

[JerseyBills]

We're aware.

They're aware.

I trust the process and coaching to figure this thing out, this is a SB window year. 

And despite bad performances last week, we have Elite D and ST

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

19 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

BOLD PREDICTION:  The Bills offense is going to thrive playing in the dome tomorrow night….

agreed. Big shocker that the passing game suffers in the rain and wind storms we play in every week. We had like 8 drops last game. The way you beat the cover 2 is to catch short passes. But you can’t do that when the ball is slick and your guys drop balls on key downs. 

[hmsmystic]

9 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

We're aware.

They're aware.

I trust the process and coaching to figure this thing out, this is a SB window year. 

And despite bad performances last week, we have Elite D and ST

Are you sure we are aware?  I haven't seen many offensive coaching adjustments= some coaches are stuck on what they want to call and try to ram their gameplan home.

Elite D?  Sure, against bad teams, but the Colts made us look soft.

Elite ST?  Average at best punter and average Punt returner

When Greg Cosell talks football everyone should listen- I think the dude is an expert.

[Mr. WEO]

Wow Cosell is a genius….a regular Rembrandt 

[Logic]

This offseason, give me a couple of big, mean offensive guards and a legitimate running back. Draft one in the first if you need to, I don't care.

I'm not suggesting we turn the clock back to the 70s and run it 40 times a game. I AM suggesting, however, that Allen will be much more successful if he has a running game to lean on when needed. Remember the game against the Jets when he was slinging it 20 yards down field at will all second half? Why was he able to do that? Because the Jets rotated a safety down into the box to stop the run game.

Enough horizontal spacing offense. Give me an offense based on power running, play-action and downfield passing. Allen is EXCELLENT off play-action and throwing the ball downfield, and he'd be even better at both if defenses had to account for a legitimate run game. 

As Cosell says, the Bills offense as currently constructed requires Allen to be All-World, all of the time. It's not sustainable. Throwing the ball 40 times per game in a place like Buffalo is not sustainable once November and December roll around. Fix the line, add a legitimate runner in the backfield, and watch Allen and the Bills offense flourish.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, zow2 said:

Saw Greg breaking down the Bills on TV today.  Nothing we don't already know but this is from someone who watches every piece of film...

Let's hope the Bills are fixing some of these issues.

 

Problems are:

- Lack of running game, no commitment to it whatsoever. RB's aren't good enough.

- OLine are not nearly good enough in pass protection to throw the ball as often as they want.

- Lacking explosive plays in passing game which existed last season.  If drives can't be sustained by running, Bills must have explosive plays.

- Buffalo cannot execute a viable offense if the only dimension is passing. 

- Josh Allen has to be special, every week, every play, or the Bills cannot win.  That's too much to ask, does not believe it's sustainable.  

 

He appears pretty regularly on a segment with Chris Brown and Steve Tasker and he pretty much said the same things a couple weeks back.

 

I guess one question is why they're lacking explosive plays in the passing game from last season - did they say anything about that?