LeviF Posted November 30, 2021 Posted November 30, 2021 (edited) 19 hours ago, SectionC3 said: Exciting news for those who, like me, love freedom. It turns out that surcharges of up to 30% of the cost of employer-sponsored health insurance can be charged to those who unjustifiably refuse a COVID-19 vaccine. I’m sure that we can all agree that this is great news. And, if you don’t want to get the vax, and want to continue to freeload on my good health habits in the collective pooling of risk, remember that you have the freedom to go without health insurance. (Which makes sense, anyways, because COVID is just another hoax by those evil rotten Democrats. Hoax. It’s not. But we all know that.). Enjoy our freedom, and the inevitable surcharges that will accompany your exercise of your freedom not to get a COVID-19 vaccine. STI's, fatasses, smokers, etc. Again, when can we start denying catamites health insurance and prescription drug payouts for HIV-related treatments? And when can we stop the flow of billions of dollars (~$28B/annum) in AIDS spending? Edited November 30, 2021 by LeviF
OrangeBills Posted November 30, 2021 Posted November 30, 2021 2 hours ago, SectionC3 said: Hoax. They can jack up the rates on everyone so long as the new rates are affordable, and then offer incentive plans to cut the rates for those who have or who choose to obtain the vaccine. Simple and effective sleight of hand. Liberty. Rule of law. America. Freedom, baby. I can't wait to see it happen to all of those hoaxers who don't get their vax because they don't like the government "telling them what to do." Then they'll complain because the government isn't telling the insurers to stop raising rates on them. They'll want more regulation. And less free market economy and freedom. Disgusting. They should move to Communist China if that's how they feel. We love freedom in this country. They should love this country, too. You've lost your mind... I also think you're a bit too willing to be trusting here of these large Pharmaceutical entities. I'm "fully vaxxed" (at least relative to Oct 2021 standards) because "price of society", but it's very OK to ask questions. I mean already your trust in the vaccine's protection has had to shift from 91-96% "I can't get infected nor pass it on" to it will be an effective pre-therapeutic to make sure we don't get seriously ill. Let's maintain some perspective, don't denigrate and hate those that you're arguing are full of hate. Currently "the Global Left" is freaking out about Omicron, but you have people in South Africa saying that it's very mild, akin to a Cold (mostly because....it IS a Cold), Oxford telling Moderna to stop spreading fear, etc etc etc. The world has gone topsy-turvy...to be a Leftist used to mean "challenge authority", which was always good and something I respect. Now it's "abide authority", very strange.
BuffaninSarasota Posted November 30, 2021 Posted November 30, 2021 On 11/24/2021 at 8:10 AM, All_Pro_Bills said: You'll need to repeal sections of the ACA in order to do this as mandatory health insurance is the rule right now. How many votes are do you expect there are in the House and Senate with mid-terms approaching? I'd suggest the idea is DOA when it comes to Medicare and Medicaid coverage. Commercial coverage where insurance is contracted between private business and the government with insurers might get some interest in premium surcharges. I know a little about the topic. I spent 12 years in health insurance supporting claims processing, provider contracts, member coverage and benefits, and I'm currently working in health care analytics services for about 4 years. Along with this some personal experience dealing with high cost hospitalization expenses. How it works is simple. Have you ever seen a dead Deer on the side of the road getting devoured by Vultures. Well you're the Deer and the hospitals and doctors & their billing administrators are the Vultures. That's why I donate some of my time to helping low income people and seniors navigate the billing process so they don't get screwed. And fun fact, people with health insurance make up the largest group of people filing personal bankruptcy. Doctors and Hospitals might get pennies on the dollar. That's not going to pay for those country club memberships and Telsa's in the 3-car garage. Anything that threatens that income stream is going to be vigorously opposed. at the Federal level, this is incorrect..... 5 states may impose a penalty for not having health insurance - that's it https://www.ehealthinsurance.com/resources/individual-and-family/does-your-state-require-you-to-have-health-insurance
SectionC3 Posted November 30, 2021 Author Posted November 30, 2021 51 minutes ago, OrangeBills said: You've lost your mind... I also think you're a bit too willing to be trusting here of these large Pharmaceutical entities. I'm "fully vaxxed" (at least relative to Oct 2021 standards) because "price of society", but it's very OK to ask questions. I mean already your trust in the vaccine's protection has had to shift from 91-96% "I can't get infected nor pass it on" to it will be an effective pre-therapeutic to make sure we don't get seriously ill. Let's maintain some perspective, don't denigrate and hate those that you're arguing are full of hate. Currently "the Global Left" is freaking out about Omicron, but you have people in South Africa saying that it's very mild, akin to a Cold (mostly because....it IS a Cold), Oxford telling Moderna to stop spreading fear, etc etc etc. The world has gone topsy-turvy...to be a Leftist used to mean "challenge authority", which was always good and something I respect. Now it's "abide authority", very strange. Oh no big boy. This isn’t a leftist plan. It’s a conservative plan. Free markets. Self reliance. Get with the program or get out, commie.
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