LABILLBACKER Posted November 24, 2021 Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Billy Claude said: McDermott is undoubtedly the best Bills coach since Marv Levy -- but it is concerning that the Bills have been among league leaders in penalties every year since he got here 2018 6th in number of penalties/ 5th in yards / 9th in false starts 2019 8th/14th/2nd (tie) 2020 6th/5th/4th (tie) 2021 6th/6th/2nd For someone who preaches process, you would expect penalties, especially false starts, to decrease. Up thru this week we have 92 penalties called against us. Dallas has the same. Only Cleveland & Miami has more with 93. Cincinnati has the least with 44 penalties. Find out what that organization is doing right. Edited November 24, 2021 by LABILLBACKER 1 Quote
Blainorama5 Posted November 24, 2021 Posted November 24, 2021 28 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: The league told them before the season to clamp down on it. This is how the league wants the game officiating. I know - was trying to make a funny. Clearly that didn't work. 😢 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted November 24, 2021 Posted November 24, 2021 23 minutes ago, Blainorama5 said: I know - was trying to make a funny. Clearly that didn't work. 😢 I apologise. I suppose I just get used to Bills fans sincerely complaining about refs. 1 Quote
frostbitmic Posted November 24, 2021 Posted November 24, 2021 3 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: These refs could literally call holding on every play, I see teams holding our D-line ALL OF THE TIME, but it is never called. I remember one Patriots game where Jerry Hughes was held nearly the entire game. I'm convinced that the refs hate us. I don't care what anyone thinks about my beliefs. The 2 calls I hate most are offensive holding and pass interference bc u can manipulate them as much as u want. PI is the worst when it's real ticky-tacky as it can alter an entire game. I mean it happens way too frequently. Okay, I'm done complaining 😆 They need to make offensive holding and offensive pass interference as severe a penalty as defensive holding and pass interference. On those defensive penalties, teams are given a first down and it's a spot foul on DPI. They should make those offensive penalties be an instant 4th down and an offensive PI a negative. If the OPI takes place 25 yards downfield it should be a 25 yard penalty. I'm guessing that in this game that these officials average number of flags thrown a game will rise. 1 Quote
Billy Claude Posted November 24, 2021 Posted November 24, 2021 3 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: Up thru this week we have 92 penalties called against us. Dallas has the same. Only Cleveland & Miami has more with 93. Cincinnati has the least with 44 penalties. Find out what that organization is doing right. It's been four years of finishing near the top of the league in penalties so it must be something the coaching staff is doing or not doing. Some of it maybe that they are coached to be aggressive but false starts are just players not being well prepared. The surprising thing is that Bills did pretty well penalty wise under Rex Ryan -- they were 32nd in false starts in 2016 with 7 and 31st in 2017 with 9. McDermott's first year it was tied for 9th with 21 false starts while keeping 3/5th of the line (Glenn, Woods and Incognito) from the previous year. Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted November 26, 2021 Posted November 26, 2021 On 11/24/2021 at 4:44 PM, frostbitmic said: They need to make offensive holding and offensive pass interference as severe a penalty as defensive holding and pass interference. On those defensive penalties, teams are given a first down and it's a spot foul on DPI. They should make those offensive penalties be an instant 4th down and an offensive PI a negative. If the OPI takes place 25 yards downfield it should be a 25 yard penalty. I'm guessing that in this game that these officials average number of flags thrown a game will rise. See Cowboys vs Raiders game.. Quote
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 26, 2021 Author Posted November 26, 2021 So far so few penalties Quote
Bferra13 Posted November 26, 2021 Posted November 26, 2021 Gimme more Brad allen. Dude runs a tight ship. 2 3 Quote
Brand J Posted November 26, 2021 Posted November 26, 2021 One of the rare games that finished before the 3 hour mark. Rushing the ball has a lot to do with that, but so does the lack of calls and stoppage of play. I’ll take this crew over a flag happy one any day of the week. 2 Quote
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 26, 2021 Posted November 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, Bferra13 said: Gimme more Brad allen. Dude runs a tight ship. guy is my new favorite ref— made the game very watchable. Called only the very blatant stuff. Quote
Bferra13 Posted November 26, 2021 Posted November 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: guy is my new favorite ref— made the game very watchable. Called only the very blatant stuff. Hell yeah brother. Mine too! 1 Quote
CLTbills Posted November 26, 2021 Posted November 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, Bferra13 said: Gimme more Brad allen. Dude runs a tight ship. Not a fan of him allowing Josh Allen to take hits to the knees and head, and the late hits on him all night though. I loved that there were very few penalties, but you gotta protect QB's. Quote
JDubya76 Posted November 26, 2021 Posted November 26, 2021 Minus the shot to the back of Josh’s knees, very fluid game. Very enjoyable flow to this one. 2 Quote
Juice_32 Posted November 26, 2021 Posted November 26, 2021 I wish they all called games like this crew. It’s so much more enjoyable to watch when they let them play. Good call by the OP. 1 Quote
Scott7975 Posted November 26, 2021 Posted November 26, 2021 I didn't like the call on Oliver for roughing the passer. He hit him in the shoulder. They let one on Josh go when Josh was taken out below the knees. Saying that... Id take this ref crew every week. Thought they did a good job. 2 Quote
BillsfaninSB Posted November 26, 2021 Posted November 26, 2021 Solid outing by this crew. Hope the Bills cross paths we these guys again. 1 1 Quote
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 26, 2021 Author Posted November 26, 2021 7 hours ago, Bferra13 said: Gimme more Brad allen. Dude runs a tight ship. Quote
BigDingus Posted November 26, 2021 Posted November 26, 2021 On 11/23/2021 at 9:55 AM, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Referee Brad Allen’s crew assigned to officiate Saints-Bills game https://www.yahoo.com/sports/referee-brad-allen-crew-assigned-183333110.html Brad Allen’s crew has averaged the third-fewest penalty flags per game this season (11.56) and the fifth-fewest penalty yards (102.67), with more penalties going against the visiting team (6.67) than the home team (4.89) on average each week. Most of their attention has focused on the offensive line, with 19 holding fouls and 16 false starts flagged this season. This turned out to be a pretty good indicator of what to expect for this game. I'll have to start paying more attention to these threads, because I loved how this game was called. It wasn't just that we won, the pacing itself was so much better. And not having to watch drive after drive be extended due to some janky call off screen was wonderful. Oh, any kickoff or punt not being an automatic flag was nice too. 2 Quote
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