Tougher Roster or build a dome?

[Hebert19]

So this week might be a catalyst to see what we do next as am organization.  

 

We have a soft team...I think everyone agrees there and it showed yesterday. Soft as in undersized, and just not cut out for hard nosed football...so with this roster are we better in a dome?  

 

Good news is we get to see in 3 days.  What if we go out and look like our old selves Thursday and throw it all over the field.  1 game after getting embarrassed and playing sloppy in the elements...

 

So my question is like the chicken or egg debate.  Do we:

 

1.  Continue to build the greatest show on turf roster that is more speed focused than power...and cave on building a dome?

 

2.   Gut the roster and bring in some big bodies that can bully people come December and Jan in the elements of western New York.  

 

I honestly think this needs to be talked about when considering a new stadium.  What is the personality that we want to build and that is the stadium direction.  As of now...our roster is more dome and less western New York.  

[BuffaloRebound]

Seriously?? By the time the stadium is built, there realistically might only be 4-5 guys still on the roster.  5 years is an eternity in the NFL.  

[SMAKCruiser]

We would have gotten killed yesterday outside in good weather, outside in bad weather and in a dome. 

[RoyBatty is alive]

Yeah but we drafted J Allen from cold,  blustery Wyoming because his rocket arm cut cut through the wind blah blah blah,

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

A dome can’t protect a team from lack of physicality. And a dome team was the one that had their way yesterday. This is a roster issue, not a stadium one… see Gillette stadium 

[letsgoteam]

I am in favor of a dome. Most of us got to watch the Bills/Colts snow game. Great one to end on. I am sick of watching games with bad wind, rain, etc.

 

That being said dome, with some tweeks to the OL to make it a better unit (not necessarily "stronger") and a "big" DT that does the job of Star, that is as good or better then him.

[All_Pro_Bills]

For example, when the Bills drafted Edmunds I saw a guy with speed and size and potential and envisioned him playing a couple years after his draft season with a few off seasons of workouts and conditioning to add a lot of muscle mass and strength turning him into a dominant force as a 'superhuman' unstoppable monster MLB.  But that hasn't happened. 

And when I see other teams play, like the Ravens and Steelers, their offensive and defensive lineman and linebackers just look a lot bigger and stronger than the Bills.  Are these other teams hitting the weight room and the lunch line harder than the Bills are here to add size, strength, and weight?  You look at this year's first 4 picks for example and you can't say any of these guys are small.  So what's going on?    

Edited November 22, 2021 by All_Pro_Bills

[BuffaloRebound]

Just now, All_Pro_Bills said:

For example, when the Bills drafted Edmunds I saw a guy with speed and size and potential and envisioned him playing a couple years after his draft season with a few off seasons of workouts and conditioning to add a lot of muscle mass and strength turning him into a dominant force as a 'superhuman' force unstoppable monster MLB.  But that hasn't happened. 

And when I see other teams play, like the Ravens and Steelers, their offensive and defensive lineman and linebackers just look a lot bigger and stronger than the Bills.  Are these other teams hitting the weight room and the lunch line harder than the Bills are here to add size, strength, and weight?  You look at this year's first 4 picks for example and you can't say any of these guys are small.  So what's going on?    

Organizational philosophy.  We draft guys and tell them to lose 25 pounds.  Pass and stop the pass is the organizational mantra.  

[NewEra]

Revamping our OL needs to be priority #1 this offseason imo.  
 

that was my #1 priority this offseason too…. Yet we basically have the same OL as last year +1. 
 

 

[Man with No Name]

Greatest show on turf type offenses rules supreme in today's NFL. Too much is left to chance playing in the elements. But it's what we will have to deal with. 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

I was jealous watching Herbert in LA last night in perfect weather conditions drop these dimes all night. 
 

i actually think Josh is great in bad weather— but how many drops did our receivers have yesterday? And the McKenzie fumble….

[jaybee]

37 minutes ago, Hebert19 said:

 

The Lions play in a dome.  Hasn't worked out particularly well for them over the years.  And....the weather didnt seem to bother the Colts who are a dome team.  When people start blaming the weather (as several did yesterday) for mediocre play, there is work that needs to be done.  I dont know the answer but I doubt a dome helps us any.

Edited November 22, 2021 by jaybee
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[Dablitzkrieg]

Is this a joke?  The weather is never an issue when you have players who don't have the heart. 

[ProcessTruster]

nah, just give me Feliciano, Brown and Star back and then see what they can do.   Those guys are key players on this team and they are all out.   

 

Shame on these 20-somethings for not vaxxing.   It's a high, close contact environment; they are letting the entire organization down.  

[QCity]

So a handful of fans want the design of a stadium with a lifespan of ~40 years (that won't even be built for another 4-5 years) to be based around the 2021 roster? It's so ridiculous and myopic that it's hard to take seriously.

 

No stadium design on earth would have stopped the Colt's OL from trampling our defense. 

[Hebert19]

20 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I was jealous watching Herbert in LA last night in perfect weather conditions drop these dimes all night. 
 

i actually think Josh is great in bad weather— but how many drops did our receivers have yesterday? And the McKenzie fumble….

Josh is fine in bad weather but we can't run the ball and receivers drop the ball...so we get one dimensional in bad weather which is a recipe for disaster. 

[BBills_88]

We need to get 1 DT (Big and nasty) and 2 Guards (Tough, Nasty, Intelligent) . 

[Sugar High JA17]

I think the real question is can JA play in loud packed stadiums? We know 2020 Josh was near MVP level with no fans and near silence. Also Wyoming Cowboys Josh played in mostly 20-30k fans in the mountain west conf. To me it seems like his game changes on the road against good teams in loud places! I still like our QB it's just noticeable of his struggles

[BigBuff423]

1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

A dome can’t protect a team from lack of physicality. And a dome team was the one that had their way yesterday. This is a roster issue, not a stadium one… see Gillette stadium 

 

Not entirely....yes, the Colts are a stadium team but it was built to be a run first Offense and we know that a run first Offense does much better than a passing, finesse type Offense like the Bills currently deploy.

 

I said this on Twitter yesterday, both the lack of physicality AND the weather having an impact on their Offense can be true. The Bills' lines on both Offense and Defese were obviously man-handled and that should be a focal point next Off-season but to say the weather didn't impact an Offense that is pass heavy and pass often, would also be myopic IMHO. The two co-exist and it became compounded with the weather.

[The Jokeman]

1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I was jealous watching Herbert in LA last night in perfect weather conditions drop these dimes all night. 
 

i actually think Josh is great in bad weather— but how many drops did our receivers have yesterday? And the McKenzie fumble….

or Ford taking a bad penalty etc. As bad as the final score was we had a chance to win that game. I'm upset at the offense more than the defense all things considered. McKenzie fumble was the back breaker if ask me.