Week 12: Bills at Saints on Thanksgiving

[BillsfaninSB]

They have to figure out a win on Thursday.  Then they have a mini-bye to get ready for MNF.  
 

Star, Brown and Edmonds should all be back for that. 

[Mat68]

On to New Orleans.  On to New Orleans.  On to New Orleans.  Game is over they got beat for 1 million reasons.  Expect alot of runs from New Orleans.  Play balanced on offense.  Buffalo should win.  Super Bowl isnt won or lost in November.

Edited November 22, 2021 by Mat68

[Sugar High JA17]

Time to wake up! Seems our players, apparently, started checking the ubiquitous odds nowadays at BetMGM, Caesar's, FanDuel, etc. and believed that they had already won the SB and Josh Allen is the MVP...

[YoloinOhio]

 

[FloridaSnow]

4 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

How much longer do they trot McKenzie out there for kick/punt returns? That fumble was mid 2000 era Bills bad. Just a laughable play….. his fumbling/muffing issues in the return game aren’t going away.

I like McKenzie a lot as a player, but messing with the return game this off-season seemed like a foolish decision then, and it hasn’t unfolded well so far. I don’t even think he’s that bad, but we just had such an automatically good thing going. Was saving some $ and the roster spot really worth it?

[Mat68]

Good teams get beat, and badly.  Learn from it move on.  Still feel it comes down to Bills and Chiefs.  Buffalo plays well on thanksgiving.  They beat The Saints they are 7-4.  In 2 weeks they beat the Patriots 8-4. Long way to go.  No need to jump off the bandwagon.  

[finn]

22 minutes ago, BillsfaninSB said:

Star, Brown and Edmonds should all be back for that. 

But who else will be out? This thing isn't over. 

[YoloinOhio]

4 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

Wentz was serviceable. I don't see anything that screams elite or franchise. The Colts beat the Bills via their run game, defense, and a huge special teams play. 

I never said he was elite. I said he’s played well this year. In response to someone who said he was trash.

Edited November 22, 2021 by YoloinOhio

[dave mcbride]

4 minutes ago, fallen627 said:

I like McKenzie a lot as a player, but messing with the return game this off-season seemed like a foolish decision then, and it hasn’t unfolded well so far. I don’t even think he’s that bad, but we just had such an automatically good thing going. Was saving some $ and the roster spot really worth it?

I feel like every returner fumbles at some point during a season and then fans jump on him. I can't get too worked up about this. It was a fluke play - he slipped on a very wet surface while cutting. On every subsequent return, he ran it straight up the gut with no cuts.

 

More broadly, he's their only option at this point. There are no miracle solutions at the returner position in the pool of street free agents. So far McKenzie has one fumble and one muffed punt (which worked out to the Bills benefit because by recovering it in the EZ they got it at the 20 instead of the 8 yard line). My guess is that's about league average. 

[YoloinOhio]

5 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

Good teams get beat, and badly.  Learn from it move on.  Still feel it comes down to Bills and Chiefs.  Buffalo plays well on thanksgiving.  They beat The Saints they are 7-4.  In 2 weeks they beat the Patriots 8-4. Long way to go.  No need to jump off the bandwagon.  

The biggest thing is all the “contending” teams that play each other in the next few weeks  - losses will mount everywhere, the afc is wide open. 

[finn]

I think they win, and the Bills have 11 days to get their act together for the home stretch. 

 

If they lose, they can still pull it together, win the division and so make the playoffs, but the self-analysis will need to deeper, and it will come amidst intense media and fan criticism. It wouldn't be a pleasant 11 days for them or us. 

[SCBills]

5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

The biggest thing is all the “contending” teams that play each other in the next few weeks  - losses will mount everywhere, the afc is wide open. 

 

Just looked through the remaining schedule for each week, and wow.. you aren't lying.  Every week has about 4-5 matchups of contending AFC teams vs contending AFC teams. 

[jkeerie]

5 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

Just looked through the remaining schedule for each week, and wow.. you aren't lying.  Every week has about 4-5 matchups of contending AFC teams vs contending AFC teams. 

Yes...playing with the Playoff Machine at ESPN...even though it doesn't have week 18 as yet...has scenarios where every current contender is eliminated by just dropping a couple of key games here or there.

[dave mcbride]

15 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

The biggest thing is all the “contending” teams that play each other in the next few weeks  - losses will mount everywhere, the afc is wide open. 

Yup. 

I see the Bills getting to 10-6 with one game being a toss-up: the Monday night game vs. NE. I think they lose to TB and NE on the road and win the rest. I also think NE may well lose to the Colts in Indy, which would make that Monday night game determinative of the division winner. Of course, as we well know crazy things can happen every week. I do have a good feeling about the NO game, but I'm wondering if I'm missing something about that team. I haven't seen much of them and they have a couple of good wins. Who is going to start at QB?

[dakrider]

Based on Sunday I'd say the Bills are lucky their playing the Saints instead of the Eagles.

Way the Bills are playing, they would struggle against any good running team, Cleveland, Chicago, Baltimore... 

[dave mcbride]

1 minute ago, ScottLaw said:

He also muffed a punt against the Dolphins that could’ve very easily cost them that game. He has a history of  return fumbles/muffs…. I’m going to guess it happens again this season. 

I actually mentioned this in the second paragraph!

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Start to play with balance or this team is going nowhere. It’s that simple. Regardless of what the clueless Jeremy White or Mile Schopp think…the only thing you do by being one dimensional (on purpose) is help the other team. Start running and being less predictable, or forget this season. I’d walk into Dabols office today and say run the ball or we will use the 11 days to find an OC that will. No room for grey area.

Edited November 22, 2021 by Brianmoorman4jesus

[Success]

Seems like the make or break of the season.  How quickly things turn in the NFL.

 

I have faith that they can do it, and turn this thing around.  But I'm ready for anything.  Saints are desperate also.

 

[muppy]

1 hour ago, Nitro said:

Tighten up the discipline.  Too many lazy penalties.  I foresee a win on Thanksgiving.

 

adding to your post I would add Do Your Job to the best of your ability out there Men ... I think the Bills know too how humongous a game this is in light of their recent losses. Its sink or swim time mateys.

 

The fanbase is losing its swagger we need Wins....Bring swagger  back #17 ...I trust he wants to as desperately as any Bills fan now will he is the question.......................

 

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Edited November 22, 2021 by Muppy

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

The saints are coached as well as anyone in the league. And they can run the ball with anyone. After last week, it’s all out there. The Saints are going to make the Bills prove they can stop the run or else they won’t ever stop running it. Whatever bull#### went on yesterday better be fixed today, otherwise we are going to get drilled.