Week 12: Bills at Saints on Thanksgiving

[BillsfaninSB]

I might have missed it but do we know the Bills uni yet?

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

  On 11/24/2021 at 7:25 PM, dave mcbride said:

I'm thinking more of Breida vs. Moss, but point taken.

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I want to see this team just give the main RB role to Singletary. He’s earned that. Then spell him with Brieda. Nice Brieda around a little, throw it to him. Maybe use them both at the same time in situations. Just stop with the Moss. Go 80/20 26-22.

[Casey D]

  On 11/24/2021 at 7:29 PM, BillsfaninSB said:

I might have missed it but do we know the Bills uni yet?

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Blue on blue

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

  On 11/24/2021 at 7:29 PM, BillsfaninSB said:

I might have missed it but do we know the Bills uni yet?

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All blue

[fathersnowman]

this is a all nighter for me game starts at 1.20 am uk time. this as to get better, no more excuses  from allen and team.

early season form easy win, now would take a confidence win , then ready for pats...

[HappyDays]

  On 11/24/2021 at 7:09 PM, dave mcbride said:

I don't know how good of a blocker Breida is.

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Not his best attribute but he appeared capable on Sunday.

 

[dave mcbride]

  On 11/24/2021 at 7:30 PM, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I want to see this team just give the main RB role to Singletary. He’s earned that. Then spell him with Brieda. Nice Brieda around a little, throw it to him. Maybe use them both at the same time in situations. Just stop with the Moss. Go 80/20 26-22.

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I'd like to see more Breida, honestly - more like 50/50. If you look at their career production through their first three seasons, it's pretty similar. Singletary in 38 games has 1877 yards at 4.8 ypc and 92 receptions for 577 yards (6.3 yards per reception). In his three seasons with the 49ers (42 games), Breida had 1902 yards at 5.0 ypc and 64 receptions for 561 yards (8.4 yards per reception).

 

Point is, he has carried a similar load in the very recent past, and whereas Singletary fumbled it 10 times in that period, Breida fumbled 4 times. And there's of course that speed - 4.38 - which can't be coached. 

[newcam2012]

  On 11/24/2021 at 5:12 PM, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

 

I jumped on the Colts +7.5 last week too. The thing that makes me nervous betting the Saints is Siemian. I'm not sure he is a competent QB. He might be. But if he isn't, the Bills feast on incompetent QB's and so far this year that has lead to all the Bills victories averaging around a 3 TD margin. 

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Great point. Siemian and Hill should be enough to keep the game close. I won't be surprised if the Saints line up Hill and gash the Bills with the run. 

 

Also, the Saints defense has been pretty good not withstanding the Eagles game. They get after the QB and by now we know that's the formula to beat the Bills. I don't see the Bills Oline holding off their pass rush.

 

Factor in home field advantage, Thanksgiving day, Saints coming off a bad loss, Bills won't run the ball, Allen isnt Allen of last year, and both sides of the Bills lines are subpar. 

 

Folks, this Bills team is not elite. Last year was an outliner. I know I will get crucified for that statement. The Bills are above average at best. 

 

Take the points! No way should the Bills be favored by 6. 

 

[RoyBatty is alive]

  On 11/24/2021 at 7:25 PM, dave mcbride said:

I'm thinking more of Breida vs. Moss, but point taken.

The Bills really have no excuses for not winning by at least two scores. This is a total mismatch on paper. 

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After the fiasco against Indie and the JAX embarrassment, I abondonet thoughts like that.   I would be happy with just a victory and no major injuries.

[dave mcbride]

  On 11/24/2021 at 7:52 PM, RoyBatty is alive said:

After the fiasco against Indie and the JAX embarrassment, I abondonet thoughts like that.   I would be happy with just a victory and no major injuries.

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I hear ya, but I just have a feeling about this one. I think the coaches mailed it in regarding schemes vs. Jax because they didn't want to reveal much in what they expected would be a blowout (note that they stayed with the same pass-happy spread approach all game in a low-scoring dog fight), but it blew up in their faces. I think they're smart enough now to treat every week as a do-or-die situation. They are just a better team than NO and have their backs against the wall. Plus they're pretty healthy and NO definitely isn't.  

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[Logic]

  On 11/24/2021 at 7:52 PM, newcam2012 said:

 

 

Folks, this Bills team is not elite. Last year was an outliner.

 

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Welp, there you have it. 

Sterling analysis.

[CSBill]

  On 11/24/2021 at 7:20 PM, HappyDays said:

 

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Bummer 😝

[ytownblofan]

  On 11/24/2021 at 7:52 PM, newcam2012 said:

Great point. Siemian and Hill should be enough to keep the game close. I won't be surprised if the Saints line up Hill and gash the Bills with the run. 

 

Also, the Saints defense has been pretty good not withstanding the Eagles game. They get after the QB and by now we know that's the formula to beat the Bills. I don't see the Bills Oline holding off their pass rush.

 

Factor in home field advantage, Thanksgiving day, Saints coming off a bad loss, Bills won't run the ball, Allen isnt Allen of last year, and both sides of the Bills lines are subpar. 

 

Folks, this Bills team is not elite. Last year was an outliner. I know I will get crucified for that statement. The Bills are above average at best. 

 

Take the points! No way should the Bills be favored by 6. 

 

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You mean the same Taysom Hill that has 171 rushing yards on the season? Listen, I get it, the Bills were abysmal against the colts running attack, but lets not kid ourselves into thinking Hill is in the same stratosphere as Jonathan Taylor. The Saints Oline is also extremely banged up compared to the Colts line.

 

You can't factor in the Saints coming off a bad loss without also factoring in that the Bills are also coming off a bad loss. Allen has been more than capable this year. Yes, he hasn't necessarily been the guy we expected, but he also has not been some awful QB. I will give you that the lines leave much to be desired. 

 

The Bills could very well lose this game, but lets not also ignore everything that is going in the Bills favor right now. 

- Saints trotting out Trevor Siemian

- Saints missing potentially both starting RBs and will likely be starting a guy just coming off IR himself

- Saints are missing their TE, their starting DE, and likely at least one OT

- Bills have a clean injury report

- In the games where Buffalo has disappointed this year, each of the following weeks they have covered the spread

 

The Bills have not been elite this year, they have shown flashes of it, but have also shown that when the wheels come loose, it can get ugly - just like several other top teams in the AFC. 

 

Take this all into consideration and it isn't difficult to see why the line is Bills -6. 

[Stank_Nasty]

 

Simms sees a tough one. Florio thinks we roll. More so because of the saints injuries than our own doing though.

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

I have no clue what to expect from this team anymore but regardless of Saints current condition, I’d be thrilled with a win. There will be no concern on style points or excuses. We need a win terribly. And if we get it, I’m going to be very pleased. The Jets win was what to do about nothing….this is different. Need to stop the bleeding now

[JaCrispy]

We will learn nothing from this game...a victory will bring no satisfaction- same ol’ beating up on a crappy/injured team if we win...meh...

[HappyDays]

  On 11/24/2021 at 8:28 PM, JaCrispy said:

We will learn nothing from this game...a victory will bring no satisfaction- same ol’ beating up on a crappy/injured team if we win...meh...

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We will learn a lot about the offense in this game. Most of the Saints injuries are on their offense. The defense has an easy match up. The offense needs to prove it can make adjustments to put up points on a good defense.

[Jpsredemption]

Saints maul the Bills with a heavy rushing attack and good defense. This will effectively deliver the dagger to the Bills. 6-5 and as mediocre as most of the drought years. 

[jkeerie]

  On 11/24/2021 at 8:28 PM, JaCrispy said:

We will learn nothing from this game...a victory will bring no satisfaction- same ol’ beating up on a crappy/injured team if we win...meh...

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We really haven't faced "injured" teams that much.  We faced the Steelers, Titans and Colts at full strength.  Yes, we faced a lot of backup QBs on the weaker teams...but the starting QBs for those teams are no great shakes either.  Whereas other teams in the conference have had the benefit of facing teams that have been injured.  Look at KC last week...they faced the Cowboys down their starting WRs.  NE will get the Titans without Henry.   We really haven't gotten any "breaks" this year, but on the other hand, we've played really poorly in two of the last 3 games, even with our starters out in key positions.  Losing to the Jags was inexcusable.  Using to the Colts wasn't.  It was the way we lost that was.   

[YoloinOhio]