Week 12: Bills at Saints on Thanksgiving

[2003Contenders]

18 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

I think what has been concerning is that you want a HC who specializes in one side of the ball to be able to invest a little less on that side and get results.   

 

Instead.........4 of 6 first rounders expended on defense and a very expensive DL and a back 7 with 5 guys under relatively big dollar contracts and 1 of the two who is not is Edmunds who has a massive 5th year cap it coming.

 

That investment seems reasonable when the defense is forcing 3 and outs and getting turnovers...........but recent history has proven that it's very difficult to maintain a top defense from year to year.    It's something of a black hole investment-wise.   We saw that last year when the defense was middling at best after a strong finish the season prior.   

 

To me.........the Bills plan has looked a little too much like the Green Bay Packers blueprint.........stock the defense with 1st rounders and let the all-world QB figure the rest out.   But the problem is that the Packers don't have a team like New England in their division.    In a season where Rodgers doesn't get hurt and miss time they usually take that division by default.   

The problem also is that Josh is not getting the "Aaron Rodgers treatment" from the officials. That is, game in and game out, Rodgers makes a number of big plays by drawing the defense off-sides with a hard-count and then rolling the dice with a high risk/high reward "free" play. Note that there have been at least 4 plays in recent weeks that I can think of where Josh clearly caught the defense off-sides, yet no flag was thrown. The first INT against the Colts was such a play -- and you have to wonder if maybe Josh forced that ball believing it was a "free" play.

[Coach Tuesday]

17 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

He can thank Moss for that as well - Moss looks absolutely awful this season.

[CapeBreton]

9 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

He can thank Moss for that as well - Moss looks absolutely awful this season.

 

He looked decent in week 2 vs Miami after being inactive week 1. They should probably make him inactive again to light a fire under him.

[YoloinOhio]

 

More McKenzie shade 

[Son of a K-Gun]

56 minutes ago, 2003Contenders said:

The problem also is that Josh is not getting the "Aaron Rodgers treatment" from the officials. That is, game in and game out, Rodgers makes a number of big plays by drawing the defense off-sides with a hard-count and then rolling the dice with a high risk/high reward "free" play. Note that there have been at least 4 plays in recent weeks that I can think of where Josh clearly caught the defense off-sides, yet no flag was thrown. The first INT against the Colts was such a play -- and you have to wonder if maybe Josh forced that ball believing it was a "free" play.

 Thought the same thing on that first INT...I was sitting in the Rock Pile so not the greatest view, but it sure as hell looked like the Colts jumped.  

[YoloinOhio]

 

[SCBills]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

I think Davis is at his best with 2-3 deep targets per game. He isn't consistent enough as a route runner or pass catcher to be a focal point of the offense. Although his skill set has a lot of upside so maybe next year he'll break out.

Agreed.  

 

Davis is a monster on deep stuff.  

 

He seems to have the dropsies or stumble out of routes at very inopportune times in the shorter/timing routes. 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Sugar High JA17]

Just win Bills...quiet the noise and start playing angry and disrespected again...

 

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 hours ago, TheProcess said:

This is awesome. Sanders is a great dude. He's out here changing a family’s holiday experience and you can really tell how much giving back means to him. While we are all pissed about how this team is playing right now, it’s generosity like this that reminds you it’s only a game.

 

You know, I wasn't gonna say anything.  Generosity should be thanked and recognized and all that.

 

But he gave away two meals.  TWO meals.  And he did so with fanfare and news coverage - lots of talking on camera, all the food packed in Blue bags emblazoned with his #1 jersey.  And he did this when the Bills are playing on a short week with minimal time to study opponent tape and minimal time for the players to rest up.  I'm sure his personal assistant did all the shopping and packaging and loading and all he had to do was show up for the news feature, but still.

 

I gave away two+ Thanksgiving meals myself.  I did it by quietly putting together bags of easy-to-prepare food like canned ham and instant mashed potatoes and instant sweet potatoes and canned veg (throw in a dollar store can opener) because a lot of times people who don't have food, have had their electric or gas shut off and can't cook much.   A friend who works with women coming out of DV situations knew who could use it and said she could drop them off on her round.  Then I bought vienna sausage cans and instant mashed potato packets and went around to our neighborhood "food box pantries" and stocked them because they're high-calorie filling foods that someone can prepare with hot water from a public bathroom and fill their stomach or their kids stomach with something warm.  I explain all that because I had a learning curve about the best ways to help, so if some of you are shopping today and want to help someone, there are some easy suggestions.  Or just float what you can in $$ to a local food pantry, many of them can bulk-buy wholesale and get more bang for the buck.  I give where I do because it's available to anyone, no questions, no eligibility process, if you're hungry just walk up and take it and eat.

 

The thought of being followed around on camera with someone sticking a microphone up my nose while I talk about how much it means to me while doing my little giving thing makes me wanna 🤮.   I don't do it for PR or thanks, I do it because I have enough that I can spare some and I'm very grateful for that.

 

I really kind of hate myself writing this.   Manny Sands has a choice about how he spends his money, and how he spends his time, and he chose to do something to help two families with some of both, which he didn't have to do, so credit to him. 

 

But clearly, from how the give-away was covered and the blue bags with his #1 jersey and so forth, there's a lot of concern about his "Brand" and positive PR, not just about giving back and helping people, so let's keep it Real, too.  A lot of us quietly and without fanfare do as much with <10% of his resources and if helping people was his real goal he could do more.  I believe Feliciano gave away 300 meals including 19 lb turkeys.  And they weren't bagged up in #76 jerseys, though he did give an interview about it.

[Lieutenant Aldo Raine]

2 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

 

Yikes!

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

 

Brown and Lotulelei still on Covid list.  No info on when they'll be back. 

 

Feliciano still on IR.  He was interviewed in regard to his 300 meal T-giving giveaway, said he is feeling good and could probably have returned this week if it weren't a short week.  McDermott earlier said he'd be back "this week or next"

 

Everyone else good to go

 

 

[John from Riverside]

2 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

That is what my eyes were seeing.....I know hat Josh threw that short heater to Bease but there were several other catchable balls

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Dukestreetking]

 

On 11/22/2021 at 10:20 PM, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

We are on the ropes but the towel isn’t on the ground yet. Bounce back, dust yourselves off and go out there and find a way to get a goddamn W.

 

As Marv used to quote:

 

I am hurt, but I am not slain;

 

I'll lay me down and bleed a-while,

 

And then I'll rise and fight again.

 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

Will be interesting to see if he out touches Moss/Singletary combined 2:1 tomorrow

[Process]

Was set to make my biggest sports bet of the year on Bills -4 but it's moved to 6.5 now, geez. 

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

12 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

The line was -7 to -7.5. I jumped all over Indy and won. Just upset I didn't play the money line. 

 

The Saints and +6 is way too many points. I'm taking it for $100. Probably $25 on the Saints money line. Can't make the same mistake twice. 

 

I jumped on the Colts +7.5 last week too. The thing that makes me nervous betting the Saints is Siemian. I'm not sure he is a competent QB. He might be. But if he isn't, the Bills feast on incompetent QB's and so far this year that has lead to all the Bills victories averaging around a 3 TD margin. 

[Casey D]

1 minute ago, Process said:

Was set to make my biggest sports bet of the year on Bills -4 but it's moved to 6.5 now, geez. 

I saw that.  And also Pats - 6 1/2 against the Titans.  Both lines seem out of whack, as if they want you to bet the Saints and Titans.  While smart money going the other way?