Week 12: Bills at Saints on Thanksgiving

[zow2]

We are absolutely going to get bullied and get our a$$es kicked by the Saints on "Drew Brees Night" in New Orleans.   

 

Philly just ran for 242 yards on the Saints D.   They won't allow anything like that to happen against them again.  I can't see the Bills offense moving the ball well at all.

 

[Nihilarian]

After reading through this thread a lot of you are attempting to put the blame on that blowout loss to the Colts on the HC...McD doesn't call the offensive or defensive plays.

 

While not being able to stop the run at all against the Titans... and now the Colts tells me the defense has some serious scheme limitations. Staying in Nickle defense all game while being gashed like that was more than foolish.

 

Star was in the Titans game and that Bills defense still gave up 143 rushing yards on 20 attempts, 3 TDs to Derrick Henry.

 

 

At the same time, what the hell happened to the #1 scoring offense? Suddenly the best WR in the NFL last season along with a QB in MVP talk can't score more than 6 points on the 28th ranked Jags defense?

 

This Buffalo high powered, high scoring prolific offense can't figure out how to beat a "cover 2 shell" defense...even against a crappy team like the Jags?

 

The Buffalo Bills 6 points scored against a #28th ranked Jags defense this offense should have destroyed...

 

Something is going on with this team...and it starts with the offense.

 

If the Bills offense scores first and keeps passing, scoring on the Colts... they forget about running the ball and go into passing mode which actually fits what that Buffalo defense does best. 

 

15 points against a 20th or so ranked Colts defense this offense should have destroyed with their passing game. Allen and Diggs were still out there, Sanders is still out there, as was Knox, Davis and Beese. 

 

If the Bills offensive line can hold a block for two seconds the Bills should move to a passing scheme that allows the QB to get the ball out quicker and as the opponent moves up to stop that, it should allow the mid to deep passes open up. 

 

If I'm McD, I'd start thinking about relieving the Bills OC from his duties, game planning, play calling. Something needs to change as this offense has far, far to much talent on this offense to be shut down by any particular offensive scheme. 

 

 

Edited November 22, 2021 by Nihilarian

[buffblue]

11 minutes ago, zow2 said:

We are absolutely going to get bullied and get our a$$es kicked by the Saints on "Drew Brees Night" in New Orleans.   

 

Philly just ran for 242 yards on the Saints D.   They won't allow anything like that to happen against them again.  I can't see the Bills offense moving the ball well at all.

 

All the "good thing there's another game in a few days" thinking is flawed imo. The Bills are reeling at the moment, and it's hard to see them getting their act together in such a short period against a team well equipped to do the same thing to us that Indy did.

 

Add in another potential offensive struggle against a usually stout Saints D, and it could be a long Thanksgiving evening.

 

Sure as hell hope I'm wrong

[Chandler#81]

15 hours ago, nedboy7 said:

Thank god I’ll be in a coma for this game.  

well, the Lions play before us.. so..

[Patrick Duffy]

Wonder if they once again decide to trot out same OL as yesterday and Jags game? I mean there's got to be something that can be changed around if just even 1 single replacement

[nucci]

1 hour ago, zow2 said:

We are absolutely going to get bullied and get our a$$es kicked by the Saints on "Drew Brees Night" in New Orleans.   

 

Philly just ran for 242 yards on the Saints D.   They won't allow anything like that to happen against them again.  I can't see the Bills offense moving the ball well at all.

 

So the Saints won't allow it to happen again but we will?

[Da webster guy]

3 hours ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:

Gonna be tough to regularly coach/scheme your way out of being outmatched on both lines. 

 

Exactly.

It's hard to hammer Beane for this personnel situation because he's been dumping huge draft capital into trench players.  A.J., Ed, Rousseau, Boogie, Ford, Spencer etc.  but until the lines get more stout it's hard to scheme around weak line play.

12 minutes ago, nucci said:

So the Saints won't allow it to happen again but we will?

 

This is a rebound team, the Saints are gonna get smacked in the teeth and they know it.   I'm still openly pleading to Daboll to start trying our RB's 7 yards deep, can't he see the dancing at the line is partially due to our RB's not being deep enough in the backfield to be full speed when they hit the line?  Especially Moss, the dude is a bowling ball but we're not using him that way at all.

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Patrick Duffy]

29 minutes ago, nucci said:

So the Saints won't allow it to happen again but we will?

Lol, that's the Billsy way so they say.....also just to add, of Kamara is able to play, then unfortunately it's a good chance that Bills do get ran all over again

[YoloinOhio]

 

 

 

[HappyDays]

1 hour ago, Nihilarian said:

At the same time, what the hell happened to the #1 scoring offense? Suddenly the best WR in the NFL last season along with a QB in MVP talk can't score more than 6 points on the 28th ranked Jags defense?

 

I'm not going to blame the offense for the loss yesterday but something is definitely still off. We had a drive yesterday where Breida was running well. All of a sudden we take him out for Moss and the drive stalls out. I don't understand why Daboll hasn't figured it out yet. Let our speedy RB punish defenses that drop everyone back into coverage. Then use play action, jet sweeps, and pre-snap misdirection to make defenses hesitate. What happened to McKenzie? We used him successfully on jet sweeps against the Jets and suddenly those vanished again yesterday.

 

Every time the offense makes some progress Daboll goes back to the same old shotgun snap/long developing route offense that defenses have figured out how to stop. The first drive we did nothing but short passes and runs and it was a good looking drive until the stupid false start. And we inexplicably got away from that strategy for the rest of the game.

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Dablitzkrieg]

That was quite a lifeless presser.  Felt like a Dick Jauron presser.

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Hebert19]

So we can assume no star or brown???  

 

Edmunds back will help but someone will need to step up or Ingram will look like taylor or Henry.  

[reddogblitz]

3 hours ago, Mat68 said:

On to New Orleans.  On to New Orleans.  On to New Orleans.  Game is over they got beat for 1 million reasons.  Expect alot of runs from New Orleans.  Play balanced on offense.  Buffalo should win.  Super Bowl isnt won or lost in November.

 

It isn't, but hopes and dreams that are high in September wilt and die in the chill of November.  I hope our dreams aren't wilting and dying although it feels like it at the moment.

 

I hope we show up to play but based on the season so far that is far from a given.

 

Go BILLS !!

[Just in Atlanta]

19 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said:

Win and win at home on Monday night and all will be ok - lose two back to back national games and McD is gone

No he won’t. Goodness man.

[Nihilarian]

15 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I'm not going to blame the offense for the loss yesterday but something is definitely still off. We had a drive yesterday where Breida was running well. All of a sudden we take him out for Moss and the drive stalls out. I don't understand why Daboll hasn't figured it out yet. Let our speedy RB punish defenses that drop everyone back into coverage. Then use play action, jet sweeps, and pre-snap misdirection to make defenses hesitate. What happened to McKenzie? We used him successfully on jet sweeps against the Jets and suddenly those vanished again yesterday.

 

Every time the offense makes some progress Daboll goes back to the same old shotgun snap/long developing route offense that defenses have figured out how to stop. The first drive we did nothing but short passes and runs and it was a good looking drive until the stupid false start. And we inexplicably got away from that strategy for the rest of the game.

That 6 points against the 28th ranked Jags defense is still causing me to think that something is way, way off with the Buffalo offense. 

 

To me, it's ludicrous that a professional NFL OC refuses to switch up his offense that is no longer working to something that will work. And, when he does find something that actually works he stops using it. 

 

I simply don't trust Brian Daboll. Either the man is completely inept to construct an offense other than the mid to deep passing scheme he has helped develop in Buffalo...OR...those 11 seasons with the Patriots as an assistant coach...

 

Let's not forget that the guy spent a year with Nick Saban as the Alabama OC and I gotta wonder who gave him a recommendation for that job...coming from NE as TE's coach. Belichick and Saban have been close since their Cleveland Browns days. Just saying...

 

 

[Freddie's Dead]

18 hours ago, Draconator said:

The Cody Ford comment was a smart ass comment. I follow in the footsteps of my profile picture.

 

Ford had a decent game yesterday.  The Ford Report will be watching.  You'll definitely be buying at the bottom, so could pay dividends....

[Michael1962]

This team has the amazing ability to inspire opposing defenses to look like the 85 Bears and opposing quarterbacks to look like Montana on steroids.