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  1. 1. Who to start?

    • Ford RG / Williams RT
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    • Williams RG / Hart RT
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I guess it was the only way they could get him… Put him on the 53 man roster. Let’s see if he’s on the active roster this Sunday. As somebody pointed out, he knows the offense, and knows how to screw it up. 

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Added a poll.

 

I actually think we should start Hart. Would rather keep Ford off the field and I think Josh does better vs edge pressure than pressure up the middle. 

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Just now, Process said:

Added a poll.

 

I actually think we should start Hart. Would rather keep Ford off the field and I think Josh does better vs edge pressure than pressure up the middle. 


Ford looks like a hall of famer compared to Hart. So, I am going to pass. 

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3 minutes ago, Process said:

Added a poll.

 

I actually think we should start Hart. Would rather keep Ford off the field and I think Josh does better vs edge pressure than pressure up the middle. 

 

That's what I would do and why they signed Hart...he knows the playbook.  Either than or Doyle is starting and Hart is our swing tackle.

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Ok, so I thought “maybe everyone’s wrong, the contrarians at PFF probably have him as at least adequate.”

No. No they don’t. Only 101 snaps this year, but in those snaps they have him rated the LOWEST I HAVE EVER

SEEN on PFF. 30.4. For PFF a score in the 50s is kind of replacement level. 
Ugh. 

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Please, you all know my stand by position by now when news like this comes out.

 

Meaning I am about to punch myself in the nuts, repeatedly and as hard as I can, until I pass out or throw up. 

 

 

...then I might eat cake.

 

 

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1 minute ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

Please, you all know my stand by position by now when news like this comes out.

 

Meaning I am about to punch myself in the nuts, repeatedly and as hard as I can, until I pass out or throw up. 

 

 

...then I might eat cake.

Eat the cake first, it'll make the whole thing a little better.

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59 minutes ago, TheProcess said:

I wish they’d just play Bates at RG or RT. 

 

This.  I'd start Bates before either Ford or Hart.  Hart must have pictures, like he's the new Vlad Ducasse....

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Why aren't they playing Ryan Bates?? The coaches go out of their way to speak well of him. In his limited action I have seen he does a good job. I don't get it. 

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Imo they go with Doyle who will have a short leash to Hart if needed.  I like them keeping Williams at RG.  Allen is good at getting out of pressure around the edge.  Can’t really do anything when it comes up the middle.  Doyle just needs to push the defender around the edge past Allen.  Give Allen his preferred roll out lane to his right. 

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Why aren't they playing Ryan Bates?? The coaches go out of their way to speak well of him. In his limited action I have seen he does a good job. I don't get it. 

It’s the whole “who would play center if both he and Morse go down.”  For baseball fans, this is the old manager’s phobia about using his backup catcher as a pinch hitter - what if my starting catcher gets hurt!! This has literally happened no more than a handful of

times in 120 years of professional baseball. 

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1 hour ago, TheProcess said:

I wish they’d just play Bates at RG or RT. 

 

The lack of opportunity for Ryan Bates with all the problems this year is "a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma; but perhaps there is a key." .... Maybe he is just not as good as we fantasize?  ..... Or MAYBE, just MAYBE, this is the week?

 

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From his wiki page (did he edit it?):

 

Hart started all 16 games in 2019. In 2020, he played in 14 games, starting 13, and was ranked 35th of 52 offensive tackles by Pro Football Focus.[9]

 

Hey, despite the horrific PFF score for about 2 Games of action this year, It turns out that he was solidly below average just last year!  Ray of hope …

 

EDIT: I’m not a PFF subscriber so I can’t verify this, but it seems weird That there would be only 52

rated OTs last year. I mean, there’s  64 starting tackles by definition. Maybe the wiki editor is setting a

minimum snap count that

makes Hart look less awful. 

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13 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

Imo they go with Doyle who will have a short leash to Hart if needed.  I like them keeping Williams at RG.  Allen is good at getting out of pressure around the edge.  Can’t really do anything when it comes up the middle.  Doyle just needs to push the defender around the edge past Allen.  Give Allen his preferred roll out lane to his right. 

Sounds good to me

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