ColoradoBills Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Rigotz said: He's under contract next year.... $7.6M for a guy who was named to the All-Pro team last season. You guys are crazy. Yes. I don't understand why they said void. He is under contract. His game is off but I hope it picks up when his ribs fully heal. One thing the wouldn't surprise me is they come to an agreement to add guaranteed money to his contract for a small salary cut. Quote
Straight Hucklebuck Posted November 17, 2021 Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Better than Diggs? There are only 3 or 4 of those guys in football. I agree though that they should absolutely be open to a receiver early in the draft. I’m just saying don’t stop. Don’t be hung up on this idea that Sanders and Beasley have to be our #2 and #3 next year, and Gabe Davis can sit another year behind them. Can you imagine this Bills team with a guy like Deebo Samuel or AJ Brown? I think we bring the same people back in the same roles, and we’re losing ground in this league. Edited November 17, 2021 by Straight Hucklebuck 1 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted November 17, 2021 Posted November 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Don’t be hung up on this idea that Sanders and Beasley have to be our #2 and #3 next year, and Gabe Davis can sit another year behind them. The odds Sanders is re-signed is going to be slim to none. Then the talks with McKenzie will happen. I don't believe Beasley would be cut. If anything, after the Bills would eat his $1.5M dead money then his contract would be tradeable. Any team with a young QB would take that on. Ultimately I believe he stays next year and Gabe replaces Sanders. Quote
ganesh Posted November 17, 2021 Posted November 17, 2021 4 hours ago, DasNootz said: He's a great possession receiver, knows how to get open and knows where the yard to get is... that said, I think he's replaceable and will likely be a cap casualty. With Diggs, Sanders, Gabe and Knox - another slot guy will be able to get open. And we will have to pay Diggs next year. He will want a new contract and that will be huge Quote
Brennan Huff Posted November 17, 2021 Posted November 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Rigotz said: He's under contract next year.... $7.6M for a guy who was named to the All-Pro team last season. You guys are crazy. Ok Quote
billsfan89 Posted November 17, 2021 Posted November 17, 2021 I think keep him one more year and they draft a Sanders replacement. 1 Quote
YattaOkasan Posted November 17, 2021 Posted November 17, 2021 With McKenzie and sanders as UFA I think we keep Beasley. Surprised it was only mentioned once in this thread since it’s a beane staple. Give him less money but guaranteed. 5 million sounds great to me. Gives us an option if the board doesn’t give us a WR they like. Quote
Steptide Posted November 17, 2021 Posted November 17, 2021 The bills are gonna have to get some young(er) blood in the wr group here somewhat soon. Sanders and Bease are aging and Diggs is 28(?). Davis is young, but I think they're gonna have to draft some good young receivers next spring or the spring after Quote
WotAGuy Posted November 17, 2021 Posted November 17, 2021 40 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said: Give him less money but guaranteed. 5 million sounds great to me. Gives us an option if the board doesn’t give us a WR they like. Why would he take less money for a guarantee that he’ll get at the beginning of the season anyway? It would make sense if he had a few years left on his contract, but he does not. Quote
ColoradoBills Posted November 17, 2021 Posted November 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: Why would he take less money for a guarantee that he’ll get at the beginning of the season anyway? It would make sense if he had a few years left on his contract, but he does not. Well the same reason Addison and Butler took cuts on the last year of their contracts earlier this year. 2 Quote
Kingston Bills Fan Posted November 17, 2021 Posted November 17, 2021 McKenzie seems to get hurt ALOT and that’s with limited playing time Quote
Richard Noggin Posted November 17, 2021 Posted November 17, 2021 1 hour ago, ganesh said: And we will have to pay Diggs next year. He will want a new contract and that will be huge And they SHOULD pay that man. Which will require some tightening of the purse for the rest of the position group. Quote
YattaOkasan Posted November 17, 2021 Posted November 17, 2021 29 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: Why would he take less money for a guarantee that he’ll get at the beginning of the season anyway? It would make sense if he had a few years left on his contract, but he does not. Cause he might not make it to the season if we draft his replacement. I’m thinking of a Singeltary and McCoy situation. If you are suggesting that Cole might not accept that offer, then I agree it’s not 100% that he would sign. Beane has done well at managing the end of contracts, and I do think 5 mill is closer to Beaslys value than 7.6. 1 Quote
Straight Hucklebuck Posted November 17, 2021 Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: The odds Sanders is re-signed is going to be slim to none. Then the talks with McKenzie will happen. I don't believe Beasley would be cut. If anything, after the Bills would eat his $1.5M dead money then his contract would be tradeable. Any team with a young QB would take that on. Ultimately I believe he stays next year and Gabe replaces Sanders. See that’s my point, I don’t need to lose Sanders to free agency and everyone left just moves up a peg. It’d be better if we acquire another top flight talent and add that to the WR room. Allen is the offense, and we have to keep feeding that, and if that means another 1st Round WR or TE is added, so be it. Edited November 17, 2021 by Straight Hucklebuck 1 Quote
Beach Posted November 17, 2021 Posted November 17, 2021 1 hour ago, BUFFALOBART said: Beasley created any so called 'bias', all by himself. even if he did, that bias leading to them saying McKenzie can fill his role says everything i need to know from them. Quote
BigAl2526 Posted November 17, 2021 Posted November 17, 2021 Obviously, careers in the NFL are a finite length. Not even Tom Brady can go on forever. When it comes to older players, I'm sure GMs have to go through a difficult process of trying to evaluate a given player's reasonable career lifespan, costs and risks. I don't think it is an automatic that players like Sanders and Beasley will either be retained or cut loose. I could see Beane coming to the conclusion that Isaiah McKenzie has more upside and lower risk of injury in 2022 than Beasley, not to mention being more cost effective if the cap is tight. Quote
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 17, 2021 Posted November 17, 2021 3 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: Yes. I don't understand why they said void. He is under contract. His game is off but I hope it picks up when his ribs fully heal. One thing the wouldn't surprise me is they come to an agreement to add guaranteed money to his contract for a small salary cut. This. He is under contract. I don't understand the "voidable" part. Maybe what they mean is that the Bills could (theoretically) move on with only $1.5M of amortized signing bonus as dead money, but that's a strange way of wording it. 1 Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted November 17, 2021 Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, QCity said: I think both Beasley and Sanders will be gone. They're on the wrong side of 30 and it's time to get some youth at the position that will be around to gel with Josh for 4-5 years. It's a juicy WR FA class next year, will Godwin slip away from the Bucs? I disagree w/ Beasley. Slot receivers built like him can play well into their mid to late 30s. Welker, Amendola, Edleman, Brandon Stokley, Randle Cobb, etc are good examples. They would be dumb to get rid of him. Guy pretty much took over the the Miami game and got us the win. When it's 3rd and 22, you know Beasley's gonna be the one Josh looks to first. So many people think he's expendable and I'd love to know their thought process. If you know football then you know how important a great slot guy is. There's only about 5 elite ones in the league. Edited November 17, 2021 by ChronicAndKnuckles 2 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted November 17, 2021 Posted November 17, 2021 12 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: Yes. I don't understand why they said void. He is under contract. His game is off but I hope it picks up when his ribs fully heal. One thing the wouldn't surprise me is they come to an agreement to add guaranteed money to his contract for a small salary cut. I keep reading this here. Often repeated, just not true. He is at a career high for receptions per game and receiving %. Even at 16 games he will likely have a career high in catches. in the last 4 games he has 35 targets and 27 catches---and that's with JA only looking his way twice in the blowout Sunday. 1 Quote
BarleyNY Posted November 17, 2021 Posted November 17, 2021 17 hours ago, JGMcD2 said: This! I don’t think people get this… release Beasley to save ~$6M and then have to find his replacement for less than $6M to make it worthwhile. Kinda where I am on this. $6.1M for 2022. I let him play out his deal unless there is some other mitigating factor. Injury that would impact 2022. Or if he were to insist on one last big payday attached to an extension, for instance. I’m not interested in that. But $6.1M? Sure. Just stay off of social media, Beasley. 1 Quote
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