leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Virgil said: I was listening to WGR today and they talked about Beasley’s contract being free to void after this season and thinking McKenzie filling that role. This got me thinking….. To me, Beasley had proven to be incomparable when it comes to finding open spaces in the zone and when our offense if clicking, Allen’s best 3rd down option. On broken plays, he also finds open space and has incredibly reliable hands. When we brought Sanders in, many of these traits were supposedly the same for him, but I haven’t seen that so far. Also, I haven’t seen anything from McKenzie to make me think he could fill that role if Beasley left. Now, I don’t know how much all of that Covid stuff bothered the front office or his relationships with the team, but he seems to be a staple to this offense and I would love to see him finish his career here. Diggs, Beasley, and Davis is a solid starting 3 to me. However, this is my perception and I’m curious to hear others Beasley is a receiving genius, a very capable guy who will retire a Bill with a SB ring+ if all is right in the world. The fact that we have ongoing discussions on how good this guy actually is shows how far we have come as a franchise. 2 Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, NewEra said: I think they’re equally quick with McKenzie being faster. Beasley just has the innate ability to know how to set his man up, feel the defender and react accordingly. Dunno if many wrs available have the feel for the slot that Beasley has. I really hope we keep Beasley. Maybe at a reduced salary, but he’s only 1 year removed from being 1st team all pro. Might have to let the nfl name his price. Let him hit the market with hopes he allows us the chance to match/counter. Josh trusts him. That matters. I dont see the route running ability from McKenzie but to be fair, he hasn't really been given the chance to play WR. He is used as a gadget guy moslty so its hard to judge his WR skills. After a massive game last year against Miami, he disappeared in the playoffs when most of our WR group was hurt. That was really odd. Quote
Rigotz Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Brennan Huff said: Beasley will walk next year. Need that money elsewhere on the roster He's under contract next year.... $7.6M for a guy who was named to the All-Pro team last season. You guys are crazy. 1 1 Quote
JohnNord Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Virgil said: I was listening to WGR today and they talked about Beasley’s contract being free to void after this season and thinking McKenzie filling that role. This got me thinking….. To me, Beasley had proven to be incomparable when it comes to finding open spaces in the zone and when our offense if clicking, Allen’s best 3rd down option. On broken plays, he also finds open space and has incredibly reliable hands. When we brought Sanders in, many of these traits were supposedly the same for him, but I haven’t seen that so far. Also, I haven’t seen anything from McKenzie to make me think he could fill that role if Beasley left. Now, I don’t know how much all of that Covid stuff bothered the front office or his relationships with the team, but he seems to be a staple to this offense and I would love to see him finish his career here. Diggs, Beasley, and Davis is a solid starting 3 to me. However, this is my perception and I’m curious to hear others I think there’s still a huge difference between what Beasley brings in the slot versus McKenzie. He might be a step slower since the injury but he knows exactly where to find openings in a defense and usually is reliable. We probably don’t win the game against Miami without Beasley playing as well as he did. I do think he’s much less effective when injured. McKenzie has a lot of potential and I feel the offense could utilize him more but I’m not sure that he could step in and play as many snaps as Cole and be as reliable. The endorsement from McDermott was very strong though. I don’t expect the Bills move on from Beasley but given his contract, the cap, and the contracts for Edmunds and Oliver looking, it’s possible Quote
Eastport bills Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 26 minutes ago, DasNootz said: Tyreek Hill disagrees with this assessment. The savings doesn't come in a vacuum. If we save 6-8 million by letting McKenzie, Davis and Sanders take that role, it frees up $6-8 million to put in the offensive line, which makes every one else on that side of the ball better too. We have an abundance at WR right now, it's not sustainable to keep everyone. I would not compare McKenzie or Sanders to Cole. McKenzie is punt and kickoff returner who gets hurt a lot and can get blown up on any return. Sanders is an outside receiver and makes as much as Cole. Think of all the great games Cole has had since our emergence. We haven't sorted out the O-line in 20+ years, and you want to offload one of our best players to justify it. Quote
cDAVIS Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Reader said: Since McK is a free agent too, also possibly we find someone new. stevenson might fill both of their rolls honestly. isiah playing incredible with returns this year though so who knows Quote
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Virgil said: I was listening to WGR today and they talked about Beasley’s contract being free to void after this season and thinking McKenzie filling that role. This got me thinking….. To me, Beasley had proven to be incomparable when it comes to finding open spaces in the zone and when our offense if clicking, Allen’s best 3rd down option. On broken plays, he also finds open space and has incredibly reliable hands. When we brought Sanders in, many of these traits were supposedly the same for him, but I haven’t seen that so far. Also, I haven’t seen anything from McKenzie to make me think he could fill that role if Beasley left. Now, I don’t know how much all of that Covid stuff bothered the front office or his relationships with the team, but he seems to be a staple to this offense and I would love to see him finish his career here. Diggs, Beasley, and Davis is a solid starting 3 to me. However, this is my perception and I’m curious to hear others Interesting topic. As bills fans I’m not sure we have experience in this realm, that is what to do with aging players on an excellent contender team in the era of free agency. Beasley is a solid slot, always open particularly adept at finding zone holes, tough, with really good hand, tends to move the sticks and supposedly liked by teammates. He’s also older and takes a lot of big hits in traffic, tries but doesn’t give a whole lot to the run game and lacks versatility to play outside or win matchups on typical nfl corners and isn’t breaking a tackle for big gains. Sanders isn’t that type of guy. Mckenzie has played there as has Gabe. But have interesting pros and cons in there and then there is Stevenson. a really good tight end could fill the same role and other some help in the run game… first world problems I guess. 1 Quote
NewEra Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: I dont see the route running ability from McKenzie but to be fair, he hasn't really been given the chance to play WR. He is used as a gadget guy moslty so its hard to judge his WR skills. After a massive game last year against Miami, he disappeared in the playoffs when most of our WR group was hurt. That was really odd. I think him disappearing had more to do with Beasley playing and mckenzie not being used. It’s not like he stunk up the joint. He didn’t get the opportunities. but I’m with ya. I love Beasley and think he a superior WR for sure. Can’t help but think that Beasley will be slowing down just a bit and is an injury risk. Having both would be ideal. Both very important pieces of the team and locker room imo. Quote
John from Riverside Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 Doent he seemed to be awefully dinged up with injuries now? He was getting up awefully slow in last weeks game Quote
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 Love Beasley and I think we are under valuing what he brings to the team. Maybe see if they can restructure him for one more year and then target Hunter Refrow in 2023. 1 Quote
maryland-bills-fan Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Better than Diggs? There are only 3 or 4 of those guys in football. shc I agree though that they should absolutely be open to a receiver early in the draft. Have you noticed that only one of our regular WR was drafted by us? College WR play most of their games against DB who will never sniff a NFL roster AND play relatively simple schemes. Being able to learn "smarts' is what makes a pro receiver. Quote
Estro Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 I like Beasley. Very talented and fills a big role on this team. I'm also confident the Bills will be able to find a solid and young WR either in the draft or in FA to link up with Allen once Beasley is gone. WR has become one of the deepest positions in all of the NFL. Quote
Sugar High JA17 Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 I like beasleys attitude this year, I understand him when he says "i never know who i am when i wake up in the morning" I cant find his bowl cut Maintenance video before he was growing his hair out for charity - It was funny Quote
CaptnCoke11 Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 Probably more likely he gets an extension to save some money. 1 Quote
Governor Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 (edited) He is finishing his career with us. He’s totally shot and will retire or be voided at the end of the season. We’ll be drafting his replacement or signing a FA after our SB victory. How long did people think he could play? Edited November 16, 2021 by Governor Quote
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Would love a first round WR next year… but does he come with a 70% catch rate? Quote
GunnerBill Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 46 minutes ago, maryland-bills-fan said: Have you noticed that only one of our regular WR was drafted by us? College WR play most of their games against DB who will never sniff a NFL roster AND play relatively simple schemes. Being able to learn "smarts' is what makes a pro receiver. Plenty of young receivers come into the league and make an impact though and as we pay more of our guys we are going to have to be willing to use some cheap labour at wideout. Quote
Governor Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: Doent he seemed to be awefully dinged up with injuries now? He was getting up awefully slow in last weeks game He seemed to regain a little of his speed early on last week, which surprised me, but there’s no reason to believe he will have anything left after a playoff run, judging by the vicious pounding he took last season. He will retire. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 Beasley replaced by....McKenzie??? lololololol. come on 1 1 1 Quote
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