Did the Jets game really prove anything????

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

14 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:

It proved that those posters, after the Jax game, that openly questioned whether or not this team could actually beat the Jets, or worse, predicted a win by the Jets, should probably not post on this site after a loss. Or, if they do decide to post after a loss, the should have an adult proof read their posts before hitting "submit reply."

 

Billsfan1959 trumps Billsfan1972!

 

I think they did and showed enough different things in this game, (another whole thread titled about never seeing JA under center so much) played Davis and McKenzie more and ran jet sweeps again, more running plays that did work better, many long ball completions, Brown played all game and for the most part Allen had enough time to pass, beat them by alot, etc.

 

So all these things added up the answer is YES it did show they are still capable of playing well offensively.  Teams may have figured us out, but we have answers.  But when having 3 of 11 starters out, then we're not so good.

 

The one other thing it showed is having 2 O lineman out, we're in trouble, but so are many other teams too.

[Royale with Cheese]

Just now, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

Billsfan1959 trumps Billsfan1972!

 

I think they did and showed enough different things in this game, (another whole thread titled about never seeing JA under center so much) played Davis and McKenzie more and ran jet sweeps again, more running plays that did work better, many long ball completions, Brown played all game and for the most part Allen had enough time to pass, beat them by alot, etc.

 

So all these things added up the answer is YES it did show they are still capable of playing well offensively.  Teams may have figured us out, but we have answers.  But when having 3 of 11 starters out, then we're not so good.

 

The one other thing it showed is having 2 O lineman out, we're in trouble, but so are many other teams too.

 

I think what Daboll learned in this game is we have to stretch the defense on the run game as well.

 

Singletary and Moss are between the tackles runners and that's where we are stuffed all the time.  

I loved the 49ers game plan yesterday against the Rams.  Toss sweeps left, right and up the middle.  

We don't have the physical strength up front to move defensive lineman...lets get them out in space.  Morse, Dawkins and Brown are mobile.

[theRalph]

We are halfway through the season and the Bills have yet to win a "close" game. They have lost all three that were within 7 points. Is there a part of the Bill's collective psyche that needs to win a close game? Do they secretly yearn for a close win?

[ALF]

It proved having the right players healthy on the OL is critical , the depth is poor.

[Nihilarian]

They did what was expected of them in destroying a bad team...what they should have done to the Jags. Even Boomer was saying wtf are you doing Daboll after that Jags game?

 

The guy did call a better game in the second half though. Lets see if he keeps it going against the Colts.

 

The thing is, the Jets didn't run that cover 2 shell that confounds the Bills offense.

[Arkady Renko]

7 minutes ago, theRalph said:

We are halfway through the season and the Bills have yet to win a "close" game. They have lost all three that were within 7 points. Is there a part of the Bill's collective psyche that needs to win a close game? Do they secretly yearn for a close win?

 

Winning close games is generally thought to be random.  That all of the losses have been in close games is a good sign of how good this team is.  

[NoHuddleKelly12]

1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Still smarting after the Jags game and yes it was great that the Bills "righted the ship".

 

But the question is whether the Jets are just so bad that the game really showed nothing?

 

Not trying to be confrontational, however still bothered by the Tennessee loss and what I thought was a ho hum performance vs. Miami and abysmal one vs. Jax.

 

Sunday will tell a lot.  

I think if the Bills had lost, the outcome would’ve certainly been used to justify “fire everyone” threads, or other extremes, so yes, why don’t we give it the same weight on the other extreme? Super Bowl or bust!!! 

[Ramza86]

I guess it was to at least show they can crush the teams they are supposed to crush. 

 

But these next 4-5 games will tell us if we will be a clear favorite in a playoff game or we could very easily lose any playoff game

[Bing Bong]

We are undeniably a really good NFL team. Our defense is great. Our offense is great.

 

Yeah we could have a better offensive line, but literally no team in the league doesn't have at least one position group as a concern. Damn near every team has more than one.

 

Ask anybody here 2/3 years ago I was one of the most negative fans on here. I thought we had a mediocre team carried by a pretty good secondary. But that team could compete and this team is leaps in bounds better than then in every way. 

Edited November 16, 2021 by FormerlyPT5P

[BADOLBILZ]

1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Still smarting after the Jags game and yes it was great that the Bills "righted the ship".

 

But the question is whether the Jets are just so bad that the game really showed nothing?

 

Not trying to be confrontational, however still bothered by the Tennessee loss and what I thought was a ho hum performance vs. Miami and abysmal one vs. Jax.

 

Sunday will tell a lot.  

 

 

It proved that they can put Josh Allen under center and run play action and get huge chunk plays.............instead of the shotgun, spread offense, 5 wide dink and dunk stuff that people mistakenly think is being more aggressive in the passing game.

 

That's important...........that is the style of team they should be IMO.........takes advantage of Allen's arm strength........keeps his feet moving allowing him to be in rhythm........makes them more physical at the point of attack, making the OL look much better............stretches the D horizontally as well with the way they used McKenzie, Sanders and Breida...............and gets production out of their receivers without them taking tons of hard tackles like they have endured in the short pass game(which wore them out by the end of last season).

[BruceVilanch]

1 hour ago, Stank_Nasty said:

that sluttybeast guy

I had no idea my dad was on this message board

[Logic]

I mean...

The Bills have the second ranked scoring offense and first ranked scoring defense in the league. They also lead the league in takeaway differential and point differential by a pretty wide margin.

I realize that the Jags loss was bad, and that many are disappointed that the Bills have three losses in general with such a talented squad, but...

I'm not so sure anything really needed proving. The Bills are very good.

[Albany,n.y.]

More like the Jags game proved that if you have Williams at RT, Boettger & Ford at Gs, Moss & Singletary behind those lines, no Knox and Josh getting swamped by a pass rush the O-line can't handle that any team can beat the Bills.  Fortunately, the Bills won't be going into games with the problems that existed in Jacksonville.  

 

The Jets game proved that the Bills can get away with 1 weak spot at G, but 2 holes at G destroys the offense.  As long as the Bills don't have Ford & Boettger out there at the same time, things should be OK.  

[Motorin']

1 hour ago, Greg S said:

Bottom line they are 6-3 and now 3-0 in the division with 2 of the wins being the road. The Bills will have to play better as the competition gets tougher.

 

Wait a minute, are you saying the Bills didn't prove they won the Super Bowl last week?

[Matt_In_NH]

For me they made some clear adjustments on offense that they will keep moving forward.  More Josh under center and the runs were mixed of outside and inside.  There is not a lot of room to lay another egg.  They should win vs the Colts at home, they need to go out and do it.

[freddyjj]

All I know is the Bills will now have to forsake their blue pants for their Big Boy Pants for rest of the 2021-2022 season!

[albanyfan]

2 hours ago, nucci said:

do you need 4 question marks after your statement? 

Just use the interrobang…

[Albany,n.y.]

14 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

This assuming their line stays healthy…. Another injury to Brown and their line is right back where it was for that Jags game. I think the Jets game showed they took the Jags game lightly in their preparation and even throughout the game. Hopefully they now know they can lose to any team any given Sunday. 

If the line doesn't stay healthy, they're done.  Before the Jax game I told a fellow Bills fan who I went to view the game at OTB that the under was a lock since neither offense is going to do anything.  It was pretty predictable that the O in Jax with all the missing parts was going to struggle.  I also said no way they would cover the spread that day.  Throughout the game I regretted that we didn't drive to the casino where we could have bet the game instead of OTB.  Unfortunately, I didn't have my car that week (It was in for a new alternator & I didn't get it back until Monday) and couldn't get to the casino 22 miles away to bet what I thought was a pretty obvious situation that the O would sputter.  

 

I don't believe the team blew off the Jags game, all those injuries & the lack of any decent running backs caused the problems.  By the Jets game the line was much better & Knox was back.  I think people underestimate the importance of Spencer Brown.  With him the line is adequate.  Without him it's a mess.  

[msw2112]

This was an important game.  Coming off the Jax loss, the Bills were discombobulated on offense.  A lot of it was due to injuries and some of it was due to a lack of preparation.  The game allowed the Bills to refocus, integrate some of the injured guys back into the lineup, run some plays and formations they had not used much this season, and regain their confidence and swagger.  Putting aside the physical element, the Bills needed to regain their mental edge and I think this game did that.  Although the Jests are bad, they are still a live opponent trying to win the game, and provided a level of resistance that the Bills needed to overcome that you just can't simulate in practice.  By doing that, and in a big way, the Bills proved to themselves that they are a good team.  This may provide some much-needed momentum for the 2nd half of the season.

 

 

Edited November 16, 2021 by msw2112

[Freddie's Dead]

Yes, it did.