Never seen Josh under center so much

[78thealltimegreat]

 I have to admit I kinda liked the Bills doing more I formation this week then I can remember recently and it actually seemed to work. 
 Since we don’t have a franchise back and are more by committee hey what the heck. 

[billybrew1]

I thought Josh had an amazing game hitting on so many beautiful passes.

Just awesome.

Josh gives me hope we can win it all this year. What a QB.

 

Go Bills!

[Hebert19]

This is what I've been calling out for last 2 years.  Running game and play action game more effective when he's under Center.

 

I know he sees field better in shotgun but he's more effective under Center.  There was a Stat last year that had his passed rating 20 points higher when under Center.  

 

Will also make his runs more effective too. 

[colin]

i dunno why we never did it much before, but on paper an athletic qb with a quick release should do better under center than in the shotgun.  

[Bookie Man]

Yeah about time! Was posting about this in the Daboll thread last week. Hopefully they stick with this balance for a while. 

[Back2Buff]

Since Josh's rookie year, the analytics have said Josh is best in play action and struggles in RPO.

 

Daboll refuses to look at the analytics and continued to run RPO with Josh.  Josh belongs in play action.

[Mikie2times]

33 minutes ago, Hebert19 said:

This is what I've been calling out for last 2 years.  Running game and play action game more effective when he's under Center.

 

I know he sees field better in shotgun but he's more effective under Center.  There was a Stat last year that had his passed rating 20 points higher when under Center.  

 

Will also make his runs more effective too. 

When we drafted him I said playaction would be a strength. You could see it at Wyoming. It removes any timing or mechanics issues with Josh. He’s been devastating in playaction. 

[Dablitzkrieg]

35 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:

Since Josh's rookie year, the analytics have said Josh is best in play action and struggles in RPO.

 

Daboll refuses to look at the analytics and continued to run RPO with Josh.  Josh belongs in play action.

Refuses 🤣

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

What I find to be interesting is that teams disrespect our playaction. If you have looked at our run struggles, the entire defense just attacks our runs. In the jags game, any time we tried to run, it was like 11 guys going right after the RB. 
 

The more we run playaction, the more our running game will open up. 

[Royale with Cheese]

7 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

Refuses 🤣

 

He's always dramatic like this.

 

He commented that Sanders might retire after dropping 2 balls in training camp after his first day.

Edited November 16, 2021 by Royale with Cheese

[Kornfed]

I think sometimes even the best coaches wind up missing the obvious.  BRAIN OVERLOAD ..Play action combined with getting the backs running off tackle a bit seemed to work pretty well. This and getting the O line back together didn't hurt.  I'm really hoping they can begin to hit stride and peak in the second half of the season. 

 

[BillsShredder83]

Anybody else see this? 

 

 

[hondo in seattle]

I noticed McD praised the game Daboll called against the Jets.  

 

I wondered if that meant McD wasn't happy with the game Daboll called the week before.  

[SCBills]

32 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Anybody else see this? 

 

 

 

This video is phenomenal..  Such an unnoticed aspect of his game (until now), but wow.. impressive. 

[First Round Bust]

love to diversity of under center vs gun,  the double TE, the jet sweeps, Breida, the tackle eligible, rollouts, etc

now add some hard counts to show the blitzers and draw the DL Offside, and the RPO instead of Josh running to the mix,,,

Edited November 16, 2021 by First Round Bust

[Blainorama5]

54 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Anybody else see this? 

 

 

Really good stuff to put on tape for upcoming weeks imo.  The misdirection handoffs / jet sweeps, motion - all should cause at least a few defenders to make some guesses here and there that can be exploited.  Liked Josh being under center for sure!

[Dr. K]

I have thought for a. while that the running game suffered out of the shotgun. Those RPO runs seldom worked. The backs start flat=footed and by the time they get going the o-line has collapsed. The run game looks so much more aggressive from under center. Play action works much better.

 

Now whether it makes it harder for Josh to read the defense is another matter, but I would hope he can function well from under center. 

[Mat68]

Stay multiple.  Utilizing Gilliam a bit will help the run game.  Helps protect Josh and decent check down option vs a linebaker.  Teams that want to sit back and play coverage against Buffalo may not in 21.  I feel teams have a grasp of our 12 personal spread looks.  By changing the personal groups and even changing players while in 12 puts way more strain on the defense.  This should be what Buffalo looks like week in and out.  Lining up Diggs, Beasley, Sanders with Allen in the gun play in and out puts the pressure on Allen figuratively and literally.

[Dukestreetking]

5 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Anybody else see this? 

 

 

 

Bills are 21st in league in shotgun (59%) vs under center. So they aren't really a shotgun heavy team. Highest is Bal at 96% . Via sharpfootballstats.

 

I couldn't find game to game breakouts, so I don't know if Sun was a significant deviation.

 

Retraction: mobile dynamic table very glitchy; data incoherent. Will try to update.

Edited November 16, 2021 by Dukestreetking

[Hapless Bills Fan]

9 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

 I have to admit I kinda liked the Bills doing more I formation this week then I can remember recently and it actually seemed to work. 
 Since we don’t have a franchise back and are more by committee hey what the heck. 

 

When you look at the snap counts, the guy who actually had the biggest change in his snap counts was Reggie Gilliam, followed by Tommy Sweeney.

Gilliam was on the field 38% of the snaps, Sweeney 34% - and Knox 84%, so that wasn't a load sharing strategy with Knox.  Bates saw 19%, which is 12% more than his snaps replacing an OL starter at the end of the game.

 

The Bills evidently decided that if we can't run with 5 OLmen, we'll bring in extra blockers. 

 

We're shocked that the Jets didn't run that Cover 2 Shell against us, but the fact that we had extra blockers in so much and were able to run the ball may have been cause-and-effect there.