Bill4Bills Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 A completely torn ACL, a dislocated knee cap and other structural knee damage that reportedly almost cost him his leg in 2016 may have had something to do with this business decision. 2 3 Quote
dave mcbride Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Even if Allen thought the play might be dead, he would want the opportunity to lay a lick on the guy and make him PAY for picking up our ball. I am NOT a Bridgewater fan at all, but this is a guy who had a truly terrible injury and came back. He can't play D and can't really move laterally all that well anymore. I'm not justifying it -- it's a terrible look -- but he may well being coached to steer clear of contact if possible given the leg injury history. The bigger issue: Drew Lock is even worse, and they are a plausible playoff contender. Him going down on what would presumably have been a failed attempt at a tackle wouldn't have done the team any good. To reiterate, though, terrible look. Edited November 16, 2021 by dave mcbride 1 Quote
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 10 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: I am NOT a Bridgewater fan at all, but this is a guy who had a truly terrible injury and came back. He can't play D and can't really move laterally all that well anymore. I'm not justifying it -- it's a terrible look -- but he may well being coached to steer clear of contact if possible given the leg injury history. The bigger issue: Drew Lock is even worse, and they are a plausible playoff contender. Him going down on what would presumably have been a failed attempt at a tackle wouldn't have done the team any good. To reiterate, though, terrible look. No quarrel with that, and to be clear, I'm not saying that Allen's desire to inflict physical punishment upon a defender who pilfers his pass is a GOOD thing. But where Allen is concerned, considering some of the licks he's laid down, I'm pretty sure it's a thing. In addition to being worse...Drew Lock was placed on the Covid-19 list 6 days ago due to testing positive, and is still unavailable AFAIK Quote
dave mcbride Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: No quarrel with that, and to be clear, I'm not saying that Allen's desire to inflict physical punishment upon a defender who pilfers his pass is a GOOD thing. But where Allen is concerned, considering some of the licks he's laid down, I'm pretty sure it's a thing. In addition to being worse...Drew Lock was placed on the Covid-19 list 6 days ago due to testing positive, and is still unavailable AFAIK Didn't know that about Lock. Another reason for Bridgewater to protect himself so he can live to fight another day. Quote
The Dean Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Bubba Gump said: That's a Tom Brady special. No kidding. As much (probably deserved) crap as Teddy is getting, I don't think I ever heard one peep from the NFL related press about Tommy's constant refusal to avoid making a tackle after a turnover. It's almost never even mentioned. I actually like Teddy and think he's had a cursed career. But this is not a good look for him. Now if it was injury related, then maybe I give him a break. But I haven't heard that used as an official explanation. For what it is worth, he finally sort of owned up to a poor effort. Sort of: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32639394/denver-broncos-qb-teddy-bridgewater-own-failing-team-low-effort-fumble-recovery-td 2 Quote
Big Turk Posted November 16, 2021 Author Posted November 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, The Dean said: No kidding. As much (probably deserved) crap as Teddy is getting, I don't think I ever heard one peep from the NFL related press about Tommy's constant refusal to avoid making a tackle after a turnover. It's almost never even mentioned. I actually like Teddy and think he's had a cursed career. But this is not a good look for him. Now if it was injury related, then maybe I give him a break. But I haven't heard that used as an official explanation. For what it is worth, he finally sort of owned up to a poor effort. Sort of: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32639394/denver-broncos-qb-teddy-bridgewater-own-failing-team-low-effort-fumble-recovery-td One has won 6 Superbowls, the other is meh. Quote
The Dean Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Big Turk said: One has won 6 Superbowls, the other is meh. Yes, I understanding winning is the cure for all faults. Gretzky didn't check. Rodman didn't score (even when he had an easy layup or dunk), etc. They were mostly saved from criticism because their TEAMS won. (Tom Brady didn't win 6 SBs, the teams he played on did. And, no, I'm not saying he wasn't an integral part. Of course he was.) But not noticing a total lack of effort? Sorry, that's not in my playbook. Kelly never changed his tough style even though he was a consistent winner. I don't expect Josh will, either. Quote
Captain_Quint Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 3 hours ago, syhuang said: His explanation is that he tried to force Slay back to sideline. But I feel it's really hard to justify his explanation: https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/5ba52115-0949-4d71-8419-815ce1311bf3#S-UnjKkt.copy Quote
quinnearlysghost88 Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 You know how many QBs have been hurt trying to make tackles? Look no further than Baker Mayfield this year. Quote
mannc Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 4 hours ago, NewEra said: Tyrod 2.0. Good enough to keep you from selecting high enough to draft a top QB. A la Carolina last season and Minnesota prior Not as good as Tyrod though. No athleticism, even before the injury. Quote
The Dean Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, quinnearlysghost88 said: You know how many QBs have been hurt trying to make tackles? Look no further than Baker Mayfield this year. OK, that's one. Quote
mannc Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 3 hours ago, QCity said: You can see him pointing at the ground, he thought the play was dead. Yeah, that was not his explanation, though. Quote
Pokebball Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: You would never see Josh do that. You knew one of us Wyoming guys would show up with story, right? I'll let you read the linked story and watch the video in it. I'll just mention that Wyo gained field position on this play because we were inside our own 20 at the time (it's in the article too, but this was awesome). https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2016/12/3/13831140/wyoming-sdsu-mountain-west-championship-fumble-touchback-interception Edited November 16, 2021 by Pokebball 1 Quote
NewEra Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 36 minutes ago, mannc said: Not as good as Tyrod though. No athleticism, even before the injury. He’s a better passer than Tyrod imo. Quote
Patrick Duffy Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, NewEra said: He’s a better passer than Tyrod imo. Oh yeah, definitely agree for sure. No question imo 1 Quote
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 2 hours ago, dave mcbride said: I am NOT a Bridgewater fan at all, but this is a guy who had a truly terrible injury and came back. He can't play D and can't really move laterally all that well anymore. I'm not justifying it -- it's a terrible look -- but he may well being coached to steer clear of contact if possible given the leg injury history. If he's being coached to steer clear of contact, Vic Fangio is apparently unaware: https://www.nfl.com/news/vic-fangio-on-bridgewater-darius-slay-sequence-i-would-like-to-see-teddy-at-leas Quote "I'd like to see us all pursue it a little bit better offensively and try to get that guy down," Fangio said, per TheDNVR.com " … I'd like to see Teddy at least make a play at the guy." Quote
mannc Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 1 hour ago, NewEra said: He’s a better passer than Tyrod imo. Like arguing over the relative merits of a Toyota Corolla and Nissan Sentra… Quote
eball Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Pokebball said: You knew one of us Wyoming guys would show up with story, right? I'll let you read the linked story and watch the video in it. I'll just mention that Wyo gained field position on this play because we were inside our own 20 at the time (it's in the article too, but this was awesome). https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2016/12/3/13831140/wyoming-sdsu-mountain-west-championship-fumble-touchback-interception OMG that is amazing. And I love it. Quote
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