Marc in MontrÈal Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 For some reason I think that this year in short yardage situations when we'll be in our opponents end of the field, say at the 35-40-45 we are going to go for it more often than in the past. In fact I wouldnt be surprised to see the Bills leading the league in 4 and short attempts in '05... Considering the following: - Rian Lindell - Buffalo's windy conditions - You lose yardage every time you miss a FG - Mularky isnt afraid to gamble - JPL's scrambling abilities, opening up run option plays - WM in the back field - Have I mentionned Rian Lindell ?? We'll see.... Marc in Mtl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 I would go with JPL on 4th & short anytime than risk Lindell going for 40+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40+ Year Bills Fan Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 I hope we don't have to even have such discussions like this in the future and we have a reliable kicker..... Why not bring O'Brien in for a trial. I know he blew a couple with the Jets last year. However, up till then he was a pretty good PK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvermike Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 Remember, the 35 is a 52-yard field goal 50-50 for the best of kickers. 45 is 62, NFL record territory. We have a good punter - the 1 is pretty tempting from there. But inside the 45, we've gotta go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake-Fat Sunny Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 Clearly it depends most on the game situation, the weather conditions and various other factors fortunately before you even get to the question of whether you have more faith in JP (I have a lot more hope than faith right now) or faith in Lindell (the shank on a very makeable kick against Pitt has removed all faith in him and even putting a hurting on my hope for him and thus for us. In pre-season, I'm much more interested in testing my faith in JP so virtually evey situation like this I try to move the ball on the ground and see what he does. As far as Lindell goes this is a job or MM/April as sports psychologists and my guess is they have to show unflagging support for Lindell like they were George Bush searching mindlessly for WMD. Even if it is against all logic that what motivates us is true, we have to stick to our expressions of faith in Lindell and hope it works out for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 From the 40+ I punt most of the time. From the 41 yard line you're asking your FG to kick a 58 yarder. I don't think the Raiders even ask Janikownski to make a lot of those. From the 33 to the 40, I probably would ask my QB to make the first down of a 4th and short. From the 33 in I attempt a FG most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 Rheem, Pochman, Vanderjagt, Gramatica or someone other than Lindell will be our kicker. We can't afford a mediocre kicker with a high cap #. No way do we have Lindell & a $1.3 million cap hit he causes on our 2005 roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 Marc in Montreal and The Dean in 2 days? All we need now is "Des!" Glad to see ya Marc! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarthur31 Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 For some reason I think that this year in short yardage situations when we'll be in our opponents end of the field, say at the 35-40-45 we are going to go for it more often than in the past. In fact I wouldnt be surprised to see the Bills leading the league in 4 and short attempts in '05... Considering the following: - Rian Lindell - Buffalo's windy conditions - You lose yardage every time you miss a FG - Mularky isnt afraid to gamble - JPL's scrambling abilities, opening up run option plays - WM in the back field - Have I mentionned Rian Lindell ?? We'll see.... Marc in Mtl 324888[/snapback] Don't you mean Moorman? No way in hell does Lindell make a 57 yard FG. Are you kidding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 a 57 yard FG? HAHAHAHAHAHAH AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! HAHAHAHA Oh, that's good stuff... lindell from 57! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udonkey Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 I think you'd have to rely on your dual back set - T Henry and Willis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 i send in mooreman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyDingo Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 Please refer to chapter 2 of the Donahoe manual: We Are Lucky To Have Him "...Lots of coaching staffs dont trust their kickers, I mean, c'mon, jeesh, what do you want from me? We're lucky to have him..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeBill Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 Why not bring O'Brien in for a trial. 324892[/snapback] Are you referrring to Ken O'Brien. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stussy109 Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 Considering its a 57 yarder, I'm handing it off to Willis and running behind the right side of the line and Daimon Shelton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 I hope we don't have to even have such discussions like this in the future and we have a reliable kicker..... Why not bring O'Brien in for a trial. I know he blew a couple with the Jets last year. However, up till then he was a pretty good PK. 324892[/snapback] Brien has the same problems that Lindell has. He looks good on paper, has good %, but is painful to watch-missing key kicks at the wrong time. what people who see him play often enough have always known, was exposed in the playoffs to the general public. He's iffy any time an important kick is needed. Always has been, always will. No matter how bad Lindell is, Brien is even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarthur31 Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 I think ex-Jets kicker has won 2 SB rings. 1 with the 49ers many moons ago and recently with the Rams. Then again, I'm prob thinking of the wrong guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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