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18 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said:

Right the ship this weekend and get nice win over the Colts and I think the board will calm down.

 

A win over the Jets and a loss to the Colts will only add to the narrative that this team is overrated and can't beat a good opponent. 

 

Lose to the Jets and you can officially put McDermott on the hot seat.  A team this talented can't lose back to back games to the Jags and Jets. 

 

That's a narrative that you and a few other posters on this board are promoting. So, you will interpret anything you don't like as evidence that it is true.

 

Much like the ridiculous assertions that this coaching staff and team are "arrogant," "take teams for granted," "have no heart," are "soft," etc., etc., etc. - it just isn't true.

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3 hours ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

That's a narrative that you and a few other posters on this board are promoting. So, you will interpret anything you don't like as evidence that it is true.

 

Much like the ridiculous assertions that this coaching staff and team are "arrogant," "take teams for granted," "have no heart," are "soft," etc., etc., etc. - it just isn't true.

 

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Good research and data. But I am worried that the issues that lost us the game - poor pass protection, poor running game, Allen trying to do too much - have been a problem all year long. Like if we had lost because Trevor Lawrence suddenly caught fire and we had some flukey special teams plays or something I would accept it as a bad day at the office. I can't think of a Super Bowl winner that had such bad offensive line play. And it seems unfixable at this point in the season. We have to hope Brown is the answer and that Dawkins looks better the further he gets from his bout with covid.

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23 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

That was the problem?  We weren't "angry" enough?

 

Where does this stuff come from?   

 

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On 11/12/2021 at 6:56 AM, corta765 said:

After the Ravens loss to Miami and the Bills to the Jags I wanted to look at how much a bad loss has meant to prior SB champions. Here is the list:

 

2010 Packers: Week 14 at Lions 7-3. Rodgers got hurt half way through but they literally lost to a 2-10 Lions team.

2011 Giants: Week 11 Eagles 17-10. The Eagles were 3-6 and despite the hype coming into the year, flamed out really hard

2012 Ravens: Week 2 Eagles 24-23 or Week 7 Texans 43-13. The Eagles went 4-12 whereas the Texans were good and Baltimore got run out of town.

2013 Seahawks: Week 16 Cardinals 17-10. They didn't really have a bad loss as every team they lost to was a playoff team, but they did lose week 16 at home to a spunky Cards team with Carson Palmer throwing 4 INTs.

2014 Patriots: Week 4 at Chiefs 41-14. This was the game which NE looked broken, Brady looked old, and people thought the Pats dynasty was finally on the way down. This was about as bad a loss a team could have in terms of image when you've been successful for a long period of time as it comes.

2015: Broncos: Week 10 Chiefs 29-10. After losing the week prior the Broncos got throttled at home by a division rival and the their offense got exposed as Manning was breaking down due to age by the second. After his fourth interception Brock Osweiler came in which is never a good thing/

2016 Patriots, No Comment other then Buffalo beat the Pats week 4

2017: Eagles: Week 13 at Seahawks 24-10. At 10-1 the Eagles had a loss on the road that fans would feel showed they were not ready yet to defeat a premier team.

2018: Patriots: Week 3 at Lions 26-10. The Patriots lost to a Lions team on the road that stunk and only scored 10 pts.

2019:  Chiefs: Week 5 Colts 19-13. Despite having a record setting offense the Chiefs laid an egg at home vs a Colts team that would finish 7-9. That was the only game that season they were held under scoring at least 23 pts in a game.

2020: Buccaneers: Week 5 at Bears 20-19 or Week 9 Saints 38-3. If you are going to losing to a bad opponent the Bucs lost in Chicago to a Bears team that was not good. If you are talking about margin of victory the Bucs got smoked by division rival the Saints and I do remember after this game people questioning how good the Bucs really were.

 

So looking at the past SB winners can have bad losses in all shapes and forms and it really isn't underheard of for an off performance. How the Jaguars finish the season may also determine in hindsight how bad the loss was or wasn't. Some of these losses above were pretty bad at the time to the team they lost to, but by seasons end not as bad.

 

Nice post! Thanks for doing the research.

 

Also:

 

The 2003 14-2 Patriots lost 31-0 to the 6-10 Bills (and 20-17 to 5-11 Washington).

 

[FTR, the 2014 Patriots also lost 17-9 to 9-7 Buffalo in the season finale.]

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