Wyatt Teller-the one that got away

[Buffalo716]

Teller shines because he's in a power run scheme that fits him 

 

He was lost in our spread scheme.. and couldn't protect Allen

 

It's hard to hold on to somebody that can't protect your quarterback when there was guys ahead of him who could

[FilthyBeast]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Teller shines because he's in a power run scheme that fits him 

 

He was lost in our spread scheme.. and couldn't protect Allen

 

It's hard to hold on to somebody that can't protect your quarterback when there was guys ahead of him who could

 

Simply not true, he wouldn't be graded out as a top 5 guard in this league if he was a one dimensional player.

 

And if you've watched any film on him the last few years not only is he probably the best run blocking guard in the entire league, but a top 10 pass blocker as well. Just a true elite player in every sense of the definition and he should be on this team right now.

[Buffalo716]

1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

Simply not true, he wouldn't be graded out as a top 5 guard in this league if he was a one dimensional player.

 

And if you've watched any film on him the last few years not only is he probably the best run blocking guard in the entire league, but a top 10 pass blocker as well. Just a true elite player in every sense of the definition and he should be on this team right now.

I'm not saying he's one-dimensional 

 

Cleveland setting up the run absolutely helps their whole team pass block.. including Wyatt teller... 

 

That's why play action is a thing and it helps lineman pass block.. it's a fact

 

If Cleveland just straight up dropped back and passed 45 times a game their entire line would look different 

 

The team made a short-sighted move.. but in that instant let's not act like teller was looking like a future all pro guard in the making 

 

he was losing the battle to  journey men... Credit to him for improving his game a lot

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 9, 2021 by Buffalo716

[Mopreme]

Beene should be fired.  

[BuffaloRebound]

The Teller thing is hard to process.  O Line play is a bit of a black box to most fans including me.  But given how bad the Bills O-Line has played and that the Bills traded away one of the best Guards in the NFL for a 6th rounder suggests something ain’t right.  Add in two 3rd round running backs that look pretty bad the majority of the time and paying Spain then cutting him weeks into the season.  Things kind of points to the running scheme or the lack of will to run the ball.  Not the players.  Bloom has certainly come off the Daboll rose pretty quickly.  

[First Round Bust]

Wyatt Teller’s #Browns Extension
(h/t @ProFootballTalk)
$59M thru 2025
$16.5M GTD @ sign
Practical 2.5 yrs $30.3M

Cap Hits
21: $2.7M
22: $4.8M
23: $15.8M
24: $17.3M
25: $18.1M

 

so for those us who want better OL play - this is guard pay - not LT - how could this work on our future payroll ?  browns have a good line lets see how many they can retain

Edited November 9, 2021 by First Round Bust
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[John from Riverside]

Good for you Wyatt....get that bag

[Pete]

1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said:

Teller shines because he's in a power run scheme that fits him 

 

He was lost in our spread scheme.. and couldn't protect Allen

 

It's hard to hold on to somebody that can't protect your quarterback when there was guys ahead of him who could

He’s the highest graded Guard in NFL.

[Buffalo716]

20 minutes ago, Pete said:

He’s the highest graded Guard in NFL.

Grades are subjective.. PFF is like the most hated site on this board.. unless it says something nice about a bills player LOL

 

Listen I'm not saying wyatt teller is not a really good football player 

 

But I know enough about the game that scheme and system absolutely matter.. and he went into one that fits his power game perfectly 

 

Every single player in the NFL has immense talent... even Sixth round picks and undrafted free agents

 

it All comes down to coaching fit and scheme and how hard a players willing to work 

 

Jordan poyer came into Sean McDermott's scheme and became a bona fide starter and playmaker... One of the most consistent safeties in the league

Edited November 9, 2021 by Buffalo716

[Draconator]

3 hours ago, Mopreme said:

Beene should be fired.  

 

No, you

 

[boater]

Wyatt Teller. The one whose play was pilloried by TSW, and his eventual trade was celebrated by TSW... that Wyatt Teller?

 

Revisionist history much?

[without a drought]

3 hours ago, Mopreme said:

Beene should be fired.  

And he can take Beane with him on the way out.

[bigduke6]

some of u really want Beane fired?   i mean,  its a team game,  but hes a big part of the why and where we are.    hes not perfect by any means,  but its easy to see his rationale behind nearly everything he does.  does that means it all works out?  of course not,  theres tons of moving parts on a football team.   id rethink this whole fire Beane nonsense tbh.

[JMF2006]

I don't think the Bills have 14m in the budget for a guard  

 

Funny that Wyatt gets paid before Baker though  

 

Kind of tells you who they feel is more important for success  

 

The guy creating running lanes for the RB's of course  

14 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Good for you Wyatt....get that bag

 

The whole Brinks truck

[JMF2006]

19 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

Has anyone in the local media had the balls to call Beane out about Teller during one of the weekly press conferences?

 

It's simply inexcusable that we gave this guy away and probably would have released him outright if not for the trade with the Browns.

 

He was going to get claimed if they sent him to the PS

 

Beane got good value...case closed.

 

Good for Wyatt that he fits the Browns scheme and made bank.:)

15 hours ago, First Round Bust said:

Wyatt Teller’s #Browns Extension
(h/t @ProFootballTalk)
$59M thru 2025
$16.5M GTD @ sign
Practical 2.5 yrs $30.3M

Cap Hits
21: $2.7M
22: $4.8M
23: $15.8M
24: $17.3M
25: $18.1M

 

so for those us who want better OL play - this is guard pay - not LT - how could this work on our future payroll ?  browns have a good line lets see how many they can retain

 

The big question is how do you pay Baker when your O line and D line are making all that money?

[poblano]

Most people here are complaining about the move, but clearly they didn't know the inside information about the situation, some things will never come up about why he was traded, only talk about misevaluation, or something to blame for.  The player attitude is never in consideration and that could be a big reason why in that preseason Teller couldn't win a position in the team, c'mon both players ahead of him were NFL's journeymen 

 

[BearNorth]

19 hours ago, JGMcD2 said:

Are you blaming Beane for not taking Ali Marpet in the 2015 draft? 

Beane wasn't here then, but this guy was right in their backyard.  Guess I'll have to blame the Brandon brain trust.

[Einstein]

17 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

 

it All comes down to coaching fit and scheme and how hard a players willing to work 

 

That’s just not true.

As an example, you could put EJ Manuel in the very best scheme with the very best coach and with him working his tail off non-stop and he still wouldn’t be very good.

 

The Bills missed on Teller. There is no reason to excuse that. Even with the Bills he showed excellent pass blocking abilities:

 

 

And he was excellent pass blocking in college as well.

 

 

[Your Brown Eye]

On 11/9/2021 at 8:45 AM, Pete said:

“Guards are easy to find”

”you don’t pay guards”

”don’t draft guards in high rounds”

 

some  TBD nonsense 

 

Yup, everyone is clamoring for a guard or two now, but come time for the draft the script will be flipped and the storyline will be "yOu DoNt DrAfT gUaRdS iN tHe FiRsT fOuR rOuNdS...wE nEeD a Lb...We NeEd A rB...wE nEeD a Cb2...dRaFt A gUy iN Rd5 aNd TuRn HiM iN a GuArD".... happens every year. 

[JGMcD2]

1 hour ago, BearNorth said:

Beane wasn't here then, but this guy was right in their backyard.  Guess I'll have to blame the Brandon brain trust.

He was in the Bills backyard, yeah?

 

The current regime has zero influence on what the past regime does. The Bills as an entity did not take Marpet but blaming the entire organization is wasteful when the leadership philosophies change with each regime.