WIDE LEFT Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 One overlooked item here and elsewhere is the role of our offensive line coach. First off, even with several years together, this line has regressed. But to the Wyatt point, it’s important to remember that these moves are not made in a vacuum. The position coach has considerable input when it comes to player evaluation. He is the guy working with and evaluating these guys everyday. So apparently our O line coach’s evaluation of Teller was way off the mark. Way off. A one time mistake? Don’t think so. This same coach had mini camps, training camp & preseason to evaluation our O lineman. His genius evaluation was that Cody Ford should be a starter. That didn’t last long, and calls into question this guys ability to evaluate and develop O lineman. Which is a big part of his job. 1 6 1 Quote
Pete Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 “Guards are easy to find” ”you don’t pay guards” ”don’t draft guards in high rounds” some TBD nonsense 3 3 4 1 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Pete said: “Guards are easy to find” ”you don’t pay guards” ”don’t draft guards in high rounds” some TBD nonsense Maybe we should draft a guard in the 5th and hope he develops..... who would be a good example of that I wonder? 1 1 3 1 1 Quote
LabattBlue Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Pete said: “Guards are easy to find” ”you don’t pay guards” ”don’t draft guards in high rounds” some TBD nonsense I don’t care if it is Beane, McD, the OL coach, Daboll, blocking schemes, etc… How about, all of the above. Fix it, or they are going nowhere. They were mediocre last year, and in an offseason where the interior OL was not addressed, they are worse this year. Ooooh…let’s bring back Mongo. He has a cool nickname and is a rah rah guy on the field Edited November 9, 2021 by BTB 1 Quote
billsfan1959 Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Maybe we should draft a guard in the 5th and hope he develops..... who would be a good example of that I wonder? Shhh...the board is still in meltdown mode.... Quote
Bob in STL Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 9 minutes ago, Pete said: “Guards are easy to find” ”you don’t pay guards” ”don’t draft guards in high rounds” some TBD nonsense Exactly. I was told that numerous times last year when I said we could take a guard in the first or second round if there is a sure starter there. I can see us taking Rousseau at 1, but not another DE at 2. Athletic guards that are strong at pass blocking and run blocking are not easy to find. Quote
LabattBlue Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Bob in STL said: Athletic guards that are strong at pass blocking and run blocking are not easy to find. At this point, I will settle for a guard who is good at either or. Quote
starrymessenger Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 Wow. Really happy for Teller. Wonderful success story. The scuttlebut in Cleveland was that with Chubb’s deal and their corner and Baker coming up he was headed to FA. He said he was fine with that and had some nice things to say about Blo. Was hoping that Beane was listening. Oh well. 1 Quote
simpleman Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 Beane, the draft & trade “magician”. Buffalo struggles at guard and builds from their own from the draft. Buffalo has an almost non existent rushing offense beyond JA. Meanwhile: “Acquired from Buffalo before the 2019 season, Teller took over as a starter at right guard midway through the year. Then last season, Pro Football Focus gave Teller its highest grade among offensive linemen. Thanks in part to Teller's emergence, Cleveland ranked third in the league in 2020 in rushing yards. In two years as Cleveland's general manager, Andrew Berry has invested heavily in the Browns offensive line. Last offseason, he signed All-Pro right tackle Jack Conklin to a three-year deal worth $42 million, including $30 million guaranteed. Berry also spent the 10th overall pick in the 2020 draft on Alabama's Jedrick Wills Jr., who immediately won the starting job at left tackle. After struggling throughout the 2019 season, the Browns offensive line has been among the league's most dominant units. Teller has been a major reason for the turnaround.” - ESPN Quote
benderbender Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 We don’t have time to pine away for Fitz AND Teller. Pick one. 1 1 Quote
The Jokeman Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 Teller was in a numbers game here, we already thought we had a starter in Spain, toss in Ford was thought to be a better prospect. It happens, yet with that contract he might not have been here long term to begin with. Am I upset we lost him? Sure yet feel the extra draft capital we got from moving him helped us get Diggs so it's a toss up. 1 Quote
Pete Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, benderbender said: We don’t have time to pine away for Fitz AND Teller. Pick one. Teller all day. Holy Christ could we use Wayne Teller! H Quote
hondo in seattle Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 If we had a good OL, I'd be thinking "Oh, well, we screwed that one up - life goes on..." when Teller's name comes up. But given our current reality, I think, "Freaking #@&*!!! &$#&@!!!! &%#@#!!!!!" 1 Quote
machine gun kelly Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 Listen this is like an old girlfriend. When it’s over, it’s over. Never look back ever. Woulda coulda shoulda never helps. 1 2 1 Quote
Sugar High JA17 Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 This guy aint missing Buffalo one bit 1 Quote
Coach Tuesday Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 Colossal failure of internal scouting and player evaluation. So far - and it's not even over - Beane's continued mis-evaluation of Cody Ford has cost the team Wyatt Teller, DK Metcalf (who could've been drafted instead of Ford) or Dalton Risner (same), and Jack Anderson who was poached by the Eagles off our PS a few weeks ago. Disgraceful. All GMs make mistakes but this is a really, really big one. 4 1 Quote
JohnNord Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dablitzkrieg said: I'm salty AF 🧂 People need to get over this… you win some, you lose some. A 5th round draft pick rarely turns out to be this successful. Edited November 9, 2021 by JohnNord 1 1 1 2 1 Quote
Aussie Joe Posted November 9, 2021 Posted November 9, 2021 28 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Am I upset we lost him? Sure yet feel the extra draft capital we got from moving him helped us get Diggs so it's a toss up. Helped like if you buy something for $199.99 and someone gives you the 99c … 2 Quote
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